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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7041 - 2014-03-28 05:52:07 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

I've been reading this forum since page 1, and I've listened to the recording four times now.

Still yet to see any proof of your assertions, so....

waiting.

FYI, circumstantial substantiation is not proof. You should learn what acceptable standards of evidence are required to prove assertions before asserting they've been proven.

Then you have problems with your comprehension skills. Nothing much that can be done for that here on the board.


If you are making an assertion, it is up to you to communicate and prove said assertion succinctly, not question the comprehension skills of the people you are trying to prove it to. This is a cop out. You have proven nothing and you're just waffling on and dodging now, driven by pure bile and hate and lies and nothing more, as per your usual style. It's okay, we're not actually expecting you to be a bigger person at all, we all know you won't be able to prove what you're asserting because you're just not asserting facts.

Yeah I'm driven by pure hate. That's why I said I don't believe anyone should be banned, only safeguards put in place. That's pure hate :)

IMO you're driven by a desire to defend your methods of RL harming people for your own sick self gratification and I think that part of you is rather despicable.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7042 - 2014-03-28 05:52:44 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Yeah I'm driven by pure hate. That's why I said I don't believe anyone should be banned, only safeguards put in place. That's pure hate :)

IMO you're driven by a desire to defend your methods of RL harming people for your own sick self gratification and I think that part of you is rather despicable.



Except NOBODY was harmed.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7043 - 2014-03-28 05:53:24 UTC
Yuto Alduin wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
You are committing the sin of "Argument through Repetition."

Isn't everyone?


This whole thread has been repetition after repetition. Points have been made, people have missed them, and created repetitive arguments that have been demonstrated as false by the points they've missed. So the points need to be made again. I'm taking a page out of Salvos book, copy-pasting is convenient for addressing the repetitive nature of the witch hunt against Ero. Fortunately, I have a sound argument. Unless, of course, someone can find fault with it. Then I am willing to listen and have a discussion.



Points have been made, YOU have missed them.
Repetitive arguments being made by YOU are just as bad.
There is no discussion with you or any type of listening it is obvious you only want to hear people who agree with you. You will resort to spamming some nonsense like a child because you have nothing else left.

It is good to see that there was a lot of good people who responded to this since last time I posted. Looks like the same few going to defend this a hole till the end LOL. Ban e1 and everyone involved. The line has to be drawn somewhere CCP you do that now or wait until e1 talks some player into suicide.


Your assertion that my points are bad is irrelevant. You can't ban someone just because you hate them, and that's all this is, a hate campaign against Ero. The only reason you're not willing to discuss the points I have made is because you have no legitimate counter point.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7044 - 2014-03-28 05:54:09 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

More mouth froth and waffling


Still waiting for proof.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Yuto Alduin
Doomheim
#7045 - 2014-03-28 05:55:59 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yuto Alduin wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
You are committing the sin of "Argument through Repetition."

Isn't everyone?


This whole thread has been repetition after repetition. Points have been made, people have missed them, and created repetitive arguments that have been demonstrated as false by the points they've missed. So the points need to be made again. I'm taking a page out of Salvos book, copy-pasting is convenient for addressing the repetitive nature of the witch hunt against Ero. Fortunately, I have a sound argument. Unless, of course, someone can find fault with it. Then I am willing to listen and have a discussion.



Points have been made, YOU have missed them.
Repetitive arguments being made by YOU are just as bad.
There is no discussion with you or any type of listening it is obvious you only want to hear people who agree with you. You will resort to spamming some nonsense like a child because you have nothing else left.

It is good to see that there was a lot of good people who responded to this since last time I posted. Looks like the same few going to defend this a hole till the end LOL. Ban e1 and everyone involved. The line has to be drawn somewhere CCP you do that now or wait until e1 talks some player into suicide.


Your assertion that my points are bad is irrelevant. You can't ban someone just because you hate them, and that's all this is, a hate campaign against Ero. The only reason you're not willing to discuss the points I have made is because you have no legitimate counter point.



What points? You have made none other than blindly throwing around accusations that everyone here who doesn't agree with you IS FULL OF SO MUCH HATE.
Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
#7046 - 2014-03-28 05:56:16 UTC
a scalawag

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7047 - 2014-03-28 05:56:44 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Yeah I'm driven by pure hate. That's why I said I don't believe anyone should be banned, only safeguards put in place. That's pure hate :)

IMO you're driven by a desire to defend your methods of RL harming people for your own sick self gratification and I think that part of you is rather despicable.



Except NOBODY was harmed.

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7048 - 2014-03-28 05:58:10 UTC
Yuto Alduin wrote:


What points? You have made none other than blindly throwing around accusations that everyone here who doesn't agree with you IS FULL OF SO MUCH HATE.


Then you haven't even read my points because that's not what I said at all.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7049 - 2014-03-28 05:58:15 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Yeah I'm driven by pure hate. That's why I said I don't believe anyone should be banned, only safeguards put in place. That's pure hate :)

IMO you're driven by a desire to defend your methods of RL harming people for your own sick self gratification and I think that part of you is rather despicable.



Except NOBODY was harmed.

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.


Sohkar himself has disagreed. So you're literally just white knighting for thin air at this point.

So yeah, ulterior motive much?

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7050 - 2014-03-28 05:58:56 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Yeah I'm driven by pure hate. That's why I said I don't believe anyone should be banned, only safeguards put in place. That's pure hate :)

IMO you're driven by a desire to defend your methods of RL harming people for your own sick self gratification and I think that part of you is rather despicable.



Except NOBODY was harmed.

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.


He's on the Livestream right now completely unharmed.

Checkmate. Move on, nothing to see here but a crazy cat lady.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Liese Shardani
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7051 - 2014-03-28 05:59:02 UTC
Ehh, not a fan of the -tard thing for any name, but that's just me.

No hate from me here, either. I'd just like to see the humiliation game show stuff not be a thing in EVE. Scams are here to stay, but the line needed to be drawn at pushing people to the total freakout point. That's what many people seem to be objecting to.
Mario Putzo
#7052 - 2014-03-28 05:59:06 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Yeah I'm driven by pure hate. That's why I said I don't believe anyone should be banned, only safeguards put in place. That's pure hate :)

IMO you're driven by a desire to defend your methods of RL harming people for your own sick self gratification and I think that part of you is rather despicable.



Except NOBODY was harmed.

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.


So you take it upon yourself to speak on Sohkars behalf?
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#7053 - 2014-03-28 05:59:29 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Morihei Akachi wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
You are committing the sin of "Argument through Repetition."

Isn't everyone?

Kind of hard to avoid at this end of a 350+ page thread. :) But look: I'll confess, if it will make Remiel happy. I hate what E1 does. i really hate it. I don't think he should be allowed to seek out EvE players to do it to any more.


It makes me happy when people are honest.

Do you think Ero should be banned just because you hate him?

He should be held accountable for his actions. Should CCP deem he broke the rules then I say let the justice be swift.

You are trying to use peoples dis-like for E1 as a reason that he shouldnt be held accountable for his actions..."oh everyone hates E1 so thats why they want him banned".....So no thats not why people are asking for justice.

They want to see him held accountable for his actions and know that his type of behavior will not be accepted by this community.

Has zero to do with like or dis-like. I would expect the same had Chibbra done what he done, hell any one for that matter.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#7054 - 2014-03-28 05:59:39 UTC
sohkar wrote:
i decided to finally post after talking to the night with erotica 1 and would like to say that erotica 1 and i didnt not troll i never met him before this thing happened. The bonus roomed happened a month ago and not many people knew about it til the post that was made which if i had a choice i would not have agree to it since i thought everything would of blown over. I dont think erotica 1 should be banned but just because of that i dont think what he did was 100% right but i choose to do what i did and i said what i said he didnt tell me to say it. I was tired and angry but i just want to blow this over.

Greetings Sohkar.

I'm sorry you got dragged through the mud because of this.

I think most folks agree with you. The situation you got involved in was adolescent humor and few find it remotely funny. Personally I don't blame you for getting mad (although perhaps you got a bit carried away).

However, embarrassing and irritating as it was, it's good to see you have the maturity to put it in perspective... and especially to speak out publicly to put out the torches and blunt the pitchforks.

As far as I'm concerned, the matter is closed. Hopefully those with ulterior motives will realize that pushing things further will only make them look more foolish.

Well done sir, I wish you the best in rebuilding your gaming experience.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7055 - 2014-03-28 06:00:01 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.



Be silent you hateful yardle-curdler

You harm us all with your souless, tastless, utterly utterly pointless nonsense

This matter is at an end

And yes, I am angry

Because all you do is cause trouble and grizzle at people

You unpleasant wretch

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

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Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7056 - 2014-03-28 06:00:19 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Yeah I'm driven by pure hate. That's why I said I don't believe anyone should be banned, only safeguards put in place. That's pure hate :)

IMO you're driven by a desire to defend your methods of RL harming people for your own sick self gratification and I think that part of you is rather despicable.



Except NOBODY was harmed.

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.


Well, when the so called "victim" comes and says "yeah, it wasn't a big deal" doesn't that kind of say there was no harm done?

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7057 - 2014-03-28 06:01:30 UTC
Liese Shardani wrote:
Ehh, not a fan of the -tard thing for any name, but that's just me.

No hate from me here, either. I'd just like to see the humiliation game show stuff not be a thing in EVE. Scams are here to stay, but the line needed to be drawn at pushing people to the total freakout point. That's what many people seem to be objecting to.


Then if they want to prove it's not just a hate campaign against Ero, they should be more consistent. Because that's CCP Gargant being subjected to the same thing that Sohkar was, having a fleet ransomed and being made to sing if they want to live.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7058 - 2014-03-28 06:01:43 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.



Be silent you hateful yardle-curdler

You harm us all with your souless, tastless, utterly utterly pointless nonsense

This matter is at an end

And yes, I am angry

Because all you do is cause trouble and grizzle at people

You unpleasant wretch

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Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.22. Post constructively.

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CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Yuto Alduin
Doomheim
#7059 - 2014-03-28 06:01:49 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yuto Alduin wrote:


What points? You have made none other than blindly throwing around accusations that everyone here who doesn't agree with you IS FULL OF SO MUCH HATE.


Then you haven't even read my points because that's not what I said at all.


Can't read what isn't there. Can I?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#7060 - 2014-03-28 06:02:57 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I disagree. Harm is not purely physical. Harm can be also pyschological. Harm doesn't have to be permanent, it can be temporary. If someone spits on you in the street and you go home and shower was no harm done? If someone deliberately makes your day miserable at work and you go home and later feel better was no harm done? In both cases harm was done, it was just not permanent and so you couldn't find a remedy in a court for that but its still harm.



Be silent you hateful yardle-curdler

You harm us all with your souless, tastless, utterly utterly pointless nonsense

This matter is at an end

And yes, I am angry

Because all you do is cause trouble and grizzle at people

You unpleasant wretch

2. Be respectful toward others at all times.

The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.

4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.22. Post constructively.

Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.1ST OFFENCE – WARNING
2ND OFFENCE – 14 DAY SUSPENSION
3RD OFFENCE – 30 DAY SUSPENSION
4TH OFFENCE – 90 DAY SUSPENSION
5TH OFFENCE – 180 DAY SUSPENSION
6+ OFFENCES – 180 DAY SUSPENSION (OR PERMANENT BAN IF TRANSGRESSION IS SEVERE ENOUGH)


So how far past 6 are you now in this thread? lol

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