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Salvos Rhoska
#6061 - 2014-03-27 19:10:13 UTC
H aVo K wrote:
It's not torture.

Have you read the post linked in my sig?

I would encourage you to do so.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#6062 - 2014-03-27 19:10:25 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
So it's exactly like if I point you and ask you to sing a song on TS3 or a I kill you, right?


Yes it's exactly like that, because they have your virtual spaceship.

False.

See:

"No, its like we will torture you until you leave the Bonus Room, and we win."


So, if a gate camp scrams a player and the ransom is *ten* songs on TS, is that torture?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#6063 - 2014-03-27 19:10:28 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Everyone should understand this. The victim was only there because his assets were on the line.
no, Sokhar was there because of greed.

He abusec Erotica 1 in local before trying the ISK double and then his greed took over.

His responsibility 100% for his choices.

Erotica 1 never approached him. He began the entire thing as anyone does that tries an ISK Doubler. He added the extra bit of abuse in local just for his own reasons though.


And that's it. Where ti not for his greed, Sohkar would not have been in the bonus room to begin with. People with sense know that you don't get something for nothing.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#6064 - 2014-03-27 19:12:03 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Everyone should understand this. The victim was only there because his assets were on the line.
no, Sokhar was there because of greed.

He abusec Erotica 1 in local before trying the ISK double and then his greed took over.

His responsibility 100% for his choices.

Erotica 1 never approached him. He began the entire thing as anyone does that tries an ISK Doubler. He added the extra bit of abuse in local just for his own reasons though.


And that's it. Where ti not for his greed, Sohkar would not have been in the bonus room to begin with. People with sense know that you don't get something for nothing.


So why even try to scam someone, if you aren't gonna get something for nothing.

Oh wait, the scammer did get something for nothing. huh

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#6065 - 2014-03-27 19:12:11 UTC
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
So it's exactly like if I point you and ask you to sing a song on TS3 or a I kill you, right?


Yes it's exactly like that, because they have your virtual spaceship.

False.

See:

"No, its like we will torture you until you leave the Bonus Room, and we win."


So, if a gate camp scrams a player and the ransom is *ten* songs on TS, is that torture?


It would be (to them) if I had to sing at them
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6066 - 2014-03-27 19:12:12 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
pretty sure we've established that it wasn't torture.

Have you read the post linked in my sig?

I encourage you to do so.


Except it fails one major points.

Like the one where no abuse ever happened. You were never forced to do anything, and nothing was done to you.

This would be like like a husband coming home from work, asking his wife how his day was and she calls the cops for domestic abuse.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#6067 - 2014-03-27 19:12:13 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:

When someone is free to up and terminate a situation, at any time, on less than a moment's notice . . . they are not being tortured


That is a commonly held false belief.

"Torture is the systematic and deliberate infliction of acute pain by one person on another, or on a third person, in order to accomplish the purpose of the former against the will of the latter." - Amnesty International.

There is no requirement of being constrained from leaving the situation, or for being subjected to torture involuntarily, in the above.

At law, according to this definition, it is a question of the "purpose of the former against the will of the latter."

In the specific case of Erotica1's activities in the Bonus Room, torture is the mechanism whereby they force the victim to abort the Bonus Room participation, thereby granting a win to Erotica1.

It is exactly by a person LEAVING the torture he is subjected to within the Bonus Room, that facilitates Erotica1 wins.

Oh please.

You're posting your "torture claims" all over this thread and are quoting various tidbits that you found on the web.
And considering what you make of it, it's very obvious that you don't understand what you copy & paste to support your claims.
The only thing you'll accomplish doing that is that no one will take you seriously.

Torture is something very serious and you shouldn't make reckless accusations in that regard (actually you shouldn't do that at all).
Use common sense, HTFU and stop making a fool out of yourself.
Your claims of torture are completely misplaced.
Dave Stark
#6068 - 2014-03-27 19:12:25 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
H aVo K wrote:
It's not torture.

Have you read the post linked in my sig?

I would encourage you to do so.


encourage all you want, it still wasn't torture.
Big Lynx
#6069 - 2014-03-27 19:12:30 UTC
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
So it's exactly like if I point you and ask you to sing a song on TS3 or a I kill you, right?


Yes it's exactly like that, because they have your virtual spaceship.

False.

See:

"No, its like we will torture you until you leave the Bonus Room, and we win."


So, if a gate camp scrams a player and the ransom is *ten* songs on TS, is that torture?


kind of
Qalix
Long Jump.
#6070 - 2014-03-27 19:12:48 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Danalee wrote:
---


Come. Give me all your assets and enter my game.

There I will abuse you for 100hrs if necessary with a unending demands that amuse my sadism, until you leave, and I win.

Many pages back I said you should stop posting. Not because you're wrong, but because there is nothing left to say. But you just won't listen. Now you have become the subject of the thread. Can you not see how you're being manipulated? You've played into your opponents' hands by constantly and consistently moving the focus off what ought to be a simple statement. If you can't recognize the psychological game that's being played with you, well, you make me sad.

Good luck.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6071 - 2014-03-27 19:13:15 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Everyone should understand this. The victim was only there because his assets were on the line.
no, Sokhar was there because of greed.

He abusec Erotica 1 in local before trying the ISK double and then his greed took over.

His responsibility 100% for his choices.

Erotica 1 never approached him. He began the entire thing as anyone does that tries an ISK Doubler. He added the extra bit of abuse in local just for his own reasons though.


And that's it. Where ti not for his greed, Sohkar would not have been in the bonus room to begin with. People with sense know that you don't get something for nothing.


Last time I checked with any normal person, using the victim being stupid as an excuse for abuse wasn't really kosher.

Mr Epeen Cool
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#6072 - 2014-03-27 19:13:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
aaah this is boring, let's shake thing up a bit..

Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk
Salvos Rhoska
#6073 - 2014-03-27 19:13:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
So, if a gate camp scrams a player and the ransom is *ten* songs on TS, is that torture?

You misunderstand how the Bonus Room functions.

It is not ten songs.
It is an unending line of arbitrary demands, any of which if you refuse to perform or choose to leave the Bonus Room, Erotica1 wins.

This process is hastened by abusing the victim during it, and thereby made "amusing" to a group of players who get off on listening to the suffering of the victim trying to cope with what is being done to him.

There is no actual way to win, unless you are an associate of Erotica1 and are running through the Bonus Room for purposes of creating a theater so that he can maintain the false legitimacy that anyone can ever (legitimately) win the Bonus Room.

Its important that you understand the difference.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6074 - 2014-03-27 19:13:38 UTC
H aVo K wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
So it's exactly like if I point you and ask you to sing a song on TS3 or a I kill you, right?

No, its like we will torture you until you leave the Bonus Room, and we win.


It's not torture.

Torture, is the immense headache inflicted on anyone who tries to follow the logic in the idiocy you are spewing.

Sir,

You suggest that there is presence of 'logic' which can be followed.

I find that extremely offensive, causing me 'acute psychological pain' during my voluntary reading of your post. I move for CCP to ban you on the grounds of torture, as defined by Amnesty International.

I await your response.

Best regards,
lollerwaffle
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#6075 - 2014-03-27 19:14:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
rodyas wrote:


So why even try to scam someone, if you aren't gonna get something for nothing.

Oh wait, the scammer did get something for nothing. huh


They (the scammers) got something for something they did (the scam). That's not something for nothing.

Giving a guy isk and expecting double in return is getting something for nothing (in game and in real life, just ask any nigerian prince). Which is why it doesn't really happen. Someone who wants to give you money will just give it to you.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#6076 - 2014-03-27 19:14:51 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
we will torture you until you leave.

Chilling stuff.

Oh god.
Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6077 - 2014-03-27 19:15:02 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
XXUghUghShockedShockedWhat?QuestionStraightQuestionRollRoll


Reported for torturing, pretending to be an air traffic controller, a lawyer and a member of UNICEF or whatnot.
Furthermore, YOU are a blemish on our community, you are everything that is wrong with it.
You are the exact opposite of everything HTFU.
YOU

Now, put your wife on again, at least she's funny when she's angry as opposed to your racism, shitposts and bigotry.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Salvos Rhoska
#6078 - 2014-03-27 19:15:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
lollerwaffle wrote:
Sir,

Oooh! I like it when you call me "Sir"!

Do it again!

Danalee wrote:
---]

You forgot your copy-pasta.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#6079 - 2014-03-27 19:15:54 UTC
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
So it's exactly like if I point you and ask you to sing a song on TS3 or a I kill you, right?


Yes it's exactly like that, because they have your virtual spaceship.

False.

See:

"No, its like we will torture you until you leave the Bonus Room, and we win."


So, if a gate camp scrams a player and the ransom is *ten* songs on TS, is that torture?


Yes, because when they take it to TS3, it becomes "fraud". They are creating a "fraudulent market". (Salvos' words not mine.)

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6080 - 2014-03-27 19:16:19 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Everyone should understand this. The victim was only there because his assets were on the line.
no, Sokhar was there because of greed.

He abusec Erotica 1 in local before trying the ISK double and then his greed took over.

His responsibility 100% for his choices.

Erotica 1 never approached him. He began the entire thing as anyone does that tries an ISK Doubler. He added the extra bit of abuse in local just for his own reasons though.


And that's it. Where ti not for his greed, Sohkar would not have been in the bonus room to begin with. People with sense know that you don't get something for nothing.


Last time I checked with any normal person, using the victim being stupid as an excuse for abuse wasn't really kosher.

Mr Epeen Cool

The term here isn't 'abuse', it's TORTURE. Do keep up.