EVE General Discussion

I might as well state that I find the recording in very poor taste. Whilst scamming is legal within Eve (and I would have it no other way) once this chap's assets have been removed, there isn't much justification for continuing to prolong his ordeal.

We've all heard clips of people singing for their ship. The difference is that it doesn't continue for several hours (whether the ransom is honoured or not.)

It does strike me that Erotica1 has taken it way, way too far.

Whilst Malcanis may sit there and say that no rules have been broken, which they haven't, it does strike me as odd that he can't see that CCP are within their right to review those rules and amend them as they see fit. A lot of people seem to find the recording objectionable - CCP's response is for them to make and not for Malcanis and a few others to decide.

I personally wouldn't ask them to ban Erotica1 but they are within their rights to ask him to tone it down. Whilst I understand they have no recourse outside of Eve, they can make a decision about whether they want a player associated with their product.

It's a thorny situation for sure. It does sadden me to see so many people justifying something like this. It just crosses the line for me.

Incidentally - Jester's blog might have been more effective if he had avoided the word torture. In this case it was probably inflammatory rather than constructive.

It's not torture.
It's not criminal activity.
Comparing real world crime/criminals to a video game screams for attention.
I would rather have him represent us, because he knows the rules of the video and the difference between IRL and virtual video games.

This is true, and the more Boris speaks, the less sense he talks.

Still at least you guys in Engerland have that to content with and not what I have in the part I live in where your voting block is determined by what kind of Christian you supposedly are

from what I can tell, the guy is the one that deserves to be banned, as he life threatened another player.

I am not talking about court. I am not talking about law. "Due process" is a fiction of fairness, provided when it is convenient to do so, and denied when it is not.

We don't need 12 jurors to hear this case. Let the wider world listen to the recording as Ripard suggested, and let them judge Eve and CCP for it.

I am sure CCP can get Malcanis to volunteer to head up PR on this, where he can explain to people disgusted by this behavior that it's within the rules, and that Erotica1 deserves his day in court. That will be compelling for sure.

Even as a police officer (retired) with a masters degree I cannot say if this was legal or not, but I can say it was abusive enough that a court would probably look at it if a complaint were made, so I think CCP should take it seriously.

Oh hush you no better than that. Gankers and scammers and such are total scum. You can tell because the database numbers attached to that character say so!

I have an empty facebook page, with my wife as my only friend. Just so I can see on all the pictures of my beautiful children that she posts. I don't use my real name and my profile is blank. It's noones business what my status is right now, and frankly, I couldn't give two ***** about anyone else's "status". Facebook is ****.

Cyber-bullying crosses a line.

Ban Erotica 1, his alts, and everyone else that ever participated in this.

EDIT: The victim should do this:

File an action in USA court over cyber-bullying, with CCP as party to the case. CCP office in USA would fold and release IP of Erotica 1, they dont need this kind of publicity - thats guaranteed. CCP arent stupid, they will not defend a user like that EULA or not.

Then file action vs Erotica directly, and watch him dance. Cyber-bullying in USA has serious repercussions, - jail-time.

It would not even cost that much, no more then 10 grand, most of it recoverable as damages later. I do this sort of thing in my real life work every now and again against trade mark infringements.

Well what are the rules regarding loopholes? Does CCP admit they were outsmarted by erotica1 by him having conversations through non game program with another EVE player?

Maybe CCP should clarify those loopholes then see what should happen to erotica1 or so.

Besides if erotica1 did outsmart CCP through that, what is wrong about setting up character purchases and ISK selling on programs outside the EVE client.

I should be able to exit EVE, go to ebay, which isn't owned by CCP and sell my character and that is all legal, since it is outside CCP's hands.

Also since character trading is illegal, I should be able to reclaim my character through CCP giving me control to it again.

That would be a scam and CCP couldn't punish me for it, since all the TOS breaking happened outside the game as well.