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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5901 - 2014-03-27 18:27:58 UTC
Its time to nerf highsec.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5902 - 2014-03-27 18:28:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Rekt.


U seem mad. R u mad?

Worried no more recordings from Bonus Room to fap to?

AAaaaawwww!


You seem to be enjoying yourself. Are you taking pleasure in someone else's emotional discomfort? Are you enjoying torturing poor Xuixien?

Biomass, clown.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#5903 - 2014-03-27 18:28:09 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Waiting for 300. Hurry up you crazies!


Yeah for real. I'm zeroing my scope now. :)

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Jerome Gouillot
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5904 - 2014-03-27 18:28:13 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
You have won, ladies and gentlemen, you are getting your witch to burn at the stake
Big smile


This is a sad day for EvE. I do not care whether Erotica1 biomasses or not, but the sandbox got one more hole. Who will be next ?
Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5905 - 2014-03-27 18:28:24 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:


"Torture is the systematic and deliberate infliction of acute pain by one person on another, or on a third person, in order to accomplish the purpose of the former against the will of the latter." - Amnesty International.


This is the definition of PVP.


Yeah.

When you undercut someone on the market, you've tortured them if they get mad ("acute psychological pain") in order to accomplish your purpose (selling your items) against your victim.


This is just silly. As a PvP er *and * a trader, I can assure you that I haven't tortured anyone, nor felt tortured by those who blew up my ships or undercut my orders.

I don't know what kind of PvP you have been up to, but perhaps you are doing it wrong?

In other word, if PvP is such agony, htfu ;)

I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5906 - 2014-03-27 18:28:25 UTC
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#5907 - 2014-03-27 18:28:26 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:


Then what are the rules. Please clarify each rule in the TOS/EULA with a detail explanation of each one so we will all be clear.


Its up to you to find the rules that have been broken, which nobody has managed to do in getting on for 300 pages of this whitchhunt.

Your statement is wrong and you posted it despite having better knowledge.
There are several posts and I gave you a link to one of my own posts earlier. You just choose to ignore that. But ignoring something that is there doesn't make it go away.
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5908 - 2014-03-27 18:28:35 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Damage control and avoiding assets and accounts being seized for EULA violations, as well as potentially IRL legal prosecution


Sorry, can you repeat that?


Did you seriously just mis-quote that?

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Jiorj
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#5909 - 2014-03-27 18:28:42 UTC
does alpha podding a station sitter change anything about what thy can or can not do?

does their handing over of assets preclude the fact that said assets can be handed back later?

I love the paintball anecdote above. Inflicting an act on yourself does not make it ok to do it to others

but let me get this straight, alpha podding removes skill points from the player, there is no hope of getting a multiple of them back, you are doing solid damage and setting the character back time that must be reaquired slowly. and this was normal 'bonus room activity'?

so it was not just 'a couple of songs'
Jack Lennox
Grove Street Families
#5910 - 2014-03-27 18:28:45 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
When you undercut someone on the market, you've tortured them if they get mad ("acute psychological pain") in order to accomplish your purpose (selling your items) against your victim.


Good one!

So in your opinion market PVP constitutes torture?


A novel notion, but one you are nonetheless free to hold if you wish, and as incorrect as it might be.



No, I think Xui's just making fun of you (and this issue), a fact that has clearly gone over your head

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embrel
BamBam Inc.
#5911 - 2014-03-27 18:28:49 UTC  |  Edited by: embrel
Edit: mobile phones and fat fingers...
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#5912 - 2014-03-27 18:29:02 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Rekt.


U seem mad. R u mad?

Worried no more recordings from Bonus Room to fap to?

AAaaaawwww!


You seem to be enjoying yourself. Are you taking pleasure in someone else's emotional discomfort? Are you enjoying torturing poor Zuizien?

Biomass, clown.


There's no such thing as "bad" publicity, as long as they spell the name right.

Remiel Pollard, you has failed me.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#5913 - 2014-03-27 18:29:38 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:


Out here in the real world you don't get to play the not-technically-breaking-the-rules card.
Mr Epeen Cool


That's nonsense.

Do you know how many people I have ACHED to arrest but couldn't because there wasn't enough evidence to file a case/no probable cause/not even enough reasonable suspicion to detain them.

You can't imagine the number of times I've had to listen to some prosecutor tell me why a charge was dropped or downgraded to something lesser over some technicality when we KNEW the person was 'guilty' and had handed them what we beleived to be an iron clad "not even Jesus can help you" case. Knowing is not enough,it's what you can prove to a jury to 6-12 people.


If you live in the U.S., you break at least fifty laws before breakfast.

Blame the lazy lawyers for not getting convictions. It's not because of a lack of rules. If someone wants you bad enough, you go down. No matter how clever you think you are. And that's with ROL in a modern democracy. If CCP, as a dictatorship, feel it's in their best interest to get rid of Erotica 1, he's gone. Plain and simple. No amount of not-technically-breaking-the-rules will change that.

That's the real question. How will CCP swing on this?

Mr Epeen Cool
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#5914 - 2014-03-27 18:29:39 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Well, since not acute pain was inflicted, and it was certainly not done against the "victims" will, you've pretty much invalidated everything but the most amusingly preposterous arguments calling for sanctions in this thread... and those arguments need no help from you to be ignored as complete rubbish.


It is obviously apparent to any observer that Sohkar and his wife are suffering acute psychological pain as a result of the torture they are systematically and deliberately subjected to.

Ranger 1 wrote:
Reading text or singing a song upon REQUEST is not "acute pain" by anyone's standards, and if you can end the supposed "torture" at any time by simply leaving a TS channel it can hardly be considered "against his will".

Read above.

Ranger 1 wrote:
Frankly the act of willfully submitting yourself to acute pain and humiliation of your own free will, when you are free to leave at any time, is called Masochism... not torture. Blink

As demonstrated in the link in my sig, the circumstances whereby a person enters into a situation where torture is enacted on them, is immaterial to whether it is torture. And as also demonstrated in the link in my sig, torture does not predicate the victim being restricted from leaving the situation in which he is being tortured.

Neither of these considerations are material to whether what is being done to them, constitutes torture.


I guess we know now that you consider this to be torture and repeating it time and again won't convince anyone who thinks differently.

So... What about you stop repeating yourself as otherwise I just might start to believe that you try to torture us.
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#5915 - 2014-03-27 18:29:44 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
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Sorry! Still not reading :D




http://goo.gl/LmpivC

Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk
Giovanni erkelens2
Violent Trans Matching
Neon Nightmares
#5916 - 2014-03-27 18:29:52 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Its time to nerf highsec.


its time to nerf nullsec back to the days when nullspace was quiet and fun. !
Salvos Rhoska
#5917 - 2014-03-27 18:30:12 UTC
Capt Starfox wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Damage control and avoiding assets and accounts being seized for EULA violations, as well as potentially IRL legal prosecution


Sorry, can you repeat that?


Did you seriously just mis-quote that?


Its not an accurate quote...?

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#5918 - 2014-03-27 18:30:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Ranger 1 wrote:
Batelle wrote:
Nidal Fervor wrote:
Soldarius wrote:
http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/03/25/heres-some-of-the-cyberbullying-that-happens-in-eve-online/

It's happening.


Just looking at the comments, EVE is getting a ton of bad press from this. All these negative comments being made about EVE.


Well, you're making mountains out of molehills. Massively sitll hasn't done any more than post an external link. Eve is already well-known in the gaming community. A handful of comments like that are indicative of nothing.

Actually, most of the comments are painting EVE in a pretty good light. Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile


And that is beautiful.

See, really emotional thinkers cling to the idea that other people will respond to situations the same way they do, and the 'lynch Erotica1 crowd' is mostly emotional thinkers. Probably Ripard Teg too.

So they put this info out there in hopes of a massive negative response that will validate their 'feelings' while getting E1 banned and making a warning to others.. What they got is an , at best, mixed response.

Then they get the one thing they weren't counting on: Support for the thing they thought everyone would be outraged about. The most likely outcome of publicizing Erotica1's activities is that more Erotica1s flock to EVE online to get a piece of that action..

Congrats to Ripard Teg, you just Eroxxed your own game by means of the Streisand Effect (ie you tried to censor E1 and ended up making more E1s lol)
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#5919 - 2014-03-27 18:30:59 UTC
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
LOL at the people that think the "bad press" over this hurts EVE. If stories about people losing thousands of dollars worth of stuff through a corp theft, AWOX, or suicide ganking are welcomed by CCP, so do you think they really give a rat's ass about this? I know minerbumping had a blog post about this a while ago, but I don't give a crap enough to go find it. I'm sure CCP has been aware of what happened here for quite some time. IMO the only person that did anything ban worthy was the "victim" for his racist rants and death threats. I've been pissed off enough at people to want to punch them, but never resorted to death threats and racist tirades, FFS.

Maybe you should go back to your bubbles if you think asking someone to sing stupid songs to get their pixels back qualifies as torture. Jesus Christ, you people are pathetic.


All you need is one parent that lost a kid due to cyberbulling with enough political connections and free time to **** it all up for us.
I'm not sure how come nobody sees this.
You have a world where you can go nuts on people so why the **** would you want to go further??
How ****** up you are to believe that to be the next cookie you must push the limit of cruelty and move it OUT of game to be able to continue doing so?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5920 - 2014-03-27 18:31:07 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Rekt.


U seem mad. R u mad?

Worried no more recordings from Bonus Room to fap to?

AAaaaawwww!


You seem to be enjoying yourself. Are you taking pleasure in someone else's emotional discomfort? Are you enjoying torturing poor Zuizien?

Biomass, clown.


There's no such thing as "bad" publicity, as long as they spell the name right.

Remiel Pollard, you has failed me.



Wait!! It's 4 am in the morning and my fingers are failing me, but I can fix this!!! THE FORUMS HAS EDIT BUTANS!!

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104