EVE General Discussion

I don't care of who's in on the crusade against another player. I'm posting in regards to this posse formed by a vindictive csm against someone who just scammed some players and asked them to sing songs.

I don't care one iota for any internal politics in goons or who kicked who for what. It is irrelevant.
I listened to the recording and heard someone having a laugh and someone being a bigot, a racist and threatening a fellow man with murder.

Try and take it any direction you want but this says a lot more about you than it does about me.

My razor is quite sharp, thank you very much.

D.

There are hundreds of people supporting him in this thread who are not his associates. Unless you think half of Eve are Erotica 1 escrow agents.

You are confused about how the pictures he posted on the forum came about. The pictures of [NAME REMOVED]'s girlfriend were not asked for, they were volunteered.

[NAME REMOVED] was asked to sing on TS for Erotica's CSM announcement for ISK. Eventually it was turned into a duet with [NAME REMOVED] and his girlfriend. The two of them were having fun with it, and the ISK was paid out in the end as promised. After the singing was over, Erotica asked for a picture of them with a sign that said "Erotica 1 for CSM", as he was doing with lots of people at the time. He asked for a plain picture, with a sign that said "Erotica 1 for CSM". That's it.

Later on in the night, the pictures you saw were given in addition to the picture that was asked for, without anyone on TS even aware that they were coming. [NAME REMOVED] and his girlfriend decided on their own to make those pictures.

You can't possibly hold those pictures against Erotica 1.

As is specifically outlined in my post, the circumstances under which torture occur, are immaterial to whether torture is occuring.

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"Since 1973Amnesty International has adopted the simplest, broadest definition of torture:

"Torture is the systematic and deliberate infliction of acute pain by one person on another, or on a third person, in order to accomplish the purpose of the former against the will of the latter."

Erotica1 inflicts systematic and deliberate acute psychological pain, through means of several hours of subjecting the victim to demeaning and humiliating tasks alongside harassment and insulting from himself and his peers, in order to accomplish their purpose of causing the victim to leave the situation, against the will of the victim to fulfill the Bonus Rooms demands for the reward promised in the contract of the Bonus Room between the victim and the perpetrators.

It is not necessary to be restrained or prevented from being able to remove oneself from the situation, for it to constitue torture, and in this incidence, it is exactly that which the perpetrators are leveraging against the victim.

It is also not necessary for the victim to have entered involuntarily into the situation in which the torture occurs.
It is immaterial how the victim ends up in the situation in which he is tortured, all that is material, is whether what the victim is subjected to in that situation, constitutes torture as defined above.

An analogy would be a wife remaining in an abusive relationship with a husband who inflicts upon her systematic and deliberate acute psychological pain, because she knows that if she files for divorce, all the assets, including the house, would remain in the property of her husband, as they are in his name. What the husband is doing to her, though superficially enabled by her remaining, nonetheless constitutes torture, as he is accomplishing the purposes of his will, namely of her remaining there for him to torture, against the will of the latter to leave the situation, as he knows full well she can and will not because then she is homeless and destitute.

In Erotica1s Bonus Room torture itself is the MEANS whereby they accomplish their goal and will, of, sooner or later, forcing the victim to leave the situation, at which point Erotica1 wins the Bonus Room. This is achieved by inflicting on the victim systemaric and deliberate acute psychological pain.

That Erotica1 causes the victims acute psychological pain, is evidenced by the psychological state the conduct they are subjected to in the Bonus Room results in. The victims are obviously suffering from it. Of that there is no question.

A Dev has been made to sing for his ship. But he did not suffer acute psychological pain in the process.
It is evident from the recording, however that Sohkar and his wife, did.

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Torture is internationally held illegal in almost every jurisdiction on Earth, including ALL international legal agencies.

Any even superficial indication of torture occuring, needs to be investigated thoroughly by all concerned authorities.

The simple way of saying it is that it's a Catch-22.

BTW, you can stop posting now. Nothing you say or do is going to change any minds. It will, however, increase the page count, dilute your and other arguments, and place the really good tidbits out of reach of everyone who isn't willing to wade through 300 pages of trolling/reverse trolling/bad poasting.

Throwing my support behind the 'Ban Erotica 1' bandwagon.

CCP I strongly hope you listen to your community on this one.

The EVE player base does not lose their proverbial **** over scammers. Not like this.

Erotica 1 is a vile, sociopathic piece of work and the allegations of coercion to provide naked pics of significant others should be passed on to the relevant authorities.

Goons, even you guys kicked him for being a creepy scum bag. Please provide what evidence you can to CCP of these allegations.

In game ramifications only are not enough, legal authorities need to be involved.

Entering the bonus room in voluntary.

Turns out I don't have to go out for nearly another hour.

Try again later.

Regards,
Crumplecorn

Unlike you, I've read everything posted and have spoken to many of the people involved.
Unless you can provide me with proof to the contrary of what my proof points out, I'm quite confident in bringing this madness to light.

D.

I know, it must be difficult for you. Anyway, I've addressed what makes your entire 'elaboration' collapse under any sensible, reasonable position of a rational, logical human being who qualifies as a halfwit. Ignore it all you want, but the good lawyers don't ignore facts :)

I am quite convinced that you are taking us for a ruse cruise at this point.

Yes CCP, please start banning players based on popular vote. That couldn't possibly end badly.