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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4381 - 2014-03-27 04:59:53 UTC
Drone 16 wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
There are many out there who enjoy being angry at me,


No kidding. Really?

It's certainly not because of your dismissive, abrasive and dull witted posting I'm sure.

Mr Epeen Cool


He thinks he is a wit.

You are not as complex as you think, you use words and concepts that you only partially understand in order to obfuscate the truth, which is that you are a rather shallow and insecure individual. Most of us here have degrees and we have heard all of the drivel that you are test-marketing in your posts. Here is a tip, it's not that people don't like you because they don't understand you, it's because you are generally off putting and banal.


And you love jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about other people that you couldn't possibly know, but you make them because it gives you comfort in your already formed, but biased, conclusions.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4382 - 2014-03-27 05:00:22 UTC
The Erotica 1 supporters have been desperately trying for the lock for a while now.

I do believe they will manage it with the filth they are posting now. Or maybe we'll just get a much needed thread trimming. Guess it depends on who's on shift.

Mr Epeen Cool
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4383 - 2014-03-27 05:00:25 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:

Tell me how that matters you stupid ****.

Fact is a significant number of military personnel commit suicide, as well as police, Fire, and Emergency Responders... and it sure as hell ain't because they are in physical pain.


How many of them killed themselves because someone took their pixels and laughed about it?

The thing is it's not really about pixels.

It's the time, or real money, that people have invested into those pixels that lends them to becoming emotional. And the people who use this to their advantage are very much aware of this fact. Blink


So, if I lose on the last level of Mario Brothers, instead of the first level, that's when I can get a free pass on making death threats and yelling obscene racist things? Because I invested time into that, right?

This is a videogame, first, last, and always. People need to grow up, take control of themselves, and act like adults. If they can't do that, that's no one's problem but their own.

The forum it occurred in is irrelevant. The issue is that a number of people deliberately set out to harm someone. Even when they realised they'd accomplished that they continued to harm the person without any consideration for the person. You're missing the entire point, whether it happened on a bus, Facebook, in someone's home or in a video game what they did was unconscionable and in many places is a criminal offence.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#4384 - 2014-03-27 05:00:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, if I lose on the last level of Mario Brothers, instead of the first level, that's when I can get a free pass on making death threats and yelling obscene racist things? Because I invested time into that, right?

Everyone handles their emotions differently, everyone expresses themselves differently. Someone might lose Mario at the last level and launch into a tirade directed at the game's creators, sure, but I imagine most people would just grumble or maybe hurl the controller across the room.

Human nature.

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
This is a videogame, first, last, and always. People need to grow up, take control of themselves, and act like adults. If they can't do that, that's no one's problem but their own.

Devil's advocate - would you call taunting someone or having them act-out bizarre things on TS, Skype or via pictures "grown up"?

But honestly you can tell people to "grow up", you can also tell them to "make love, not war" and many other things. But at the end of the day you've got to contend with good ol' human nature at every turn. People will always attach emotion to time and money, just like countries will always go to war with each other.

Human nature, Mr Aldurald. We have to compensate for it. Everywhere.

Pubs and clubs know this, that is why they have laws to serve alcohol responsibly. When the drunk staggers onto the road and gets run over it's the pub that will face liabitliy. Same with a casino if it lets a habitual gambler gamble in it's house. The internet is slowly becoming the same kind of environment where those who run sites are being held responsible for the real-world outcomes of what takes place there. If you don't like that then don't waste your breath on me, write a letter to your local member of parliament instead.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#4385 - 2014-03-27 05:00:51 UTC
Anomaly One wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
E1 & Co. just made a cardinal mistake of pissing on the united states service men and women.

God knows i disagree with some things US gov't does, but I never disrespect and belittle the brave men and women who are sent to do dangerous jobs overseas.

For your little sadist circle to laugh about some very serious issues facing the service men and women is not cool. Especially since EVE Online is where a large number of them choose to spend their free time.

But keep digging.




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Tell me how that matters you stupid ****.

Fact is a significant number of military personnel commit suicide, as well as police, Fire, and Emergency Responders... and it sure as hell ain't because they are in physical pain.



"those" soliders commit suicide because they've done things they shouldn't have done/witnessed them, they joined the army thinking it was a joy ride, they were too weak, and you see it most in the US because the US doesn't wage normal wars but filled with genocides , murderers (lets get this thread going), the US army is a disgrace much alone the US itself. Tell me when has the last time US actually did something to defend and didn't stick it's **** in matters that they shouldn't.

but don't think i'm saying this and you will write off because i'm an E1 supporter, it's just a matter that my country has a hate relationship with the US for quite some time because the **** they committed in our grounds well that and we have some entities that the US claims are terrorists but are in fact our national guard lmfao (but yea thats a whoooooole other debate).


Time to abandon thread


Dude, never go full rotored.

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Kyperion
#4386 - 2014-03-27 05:01:45 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Everyone knows emotional pain is real, and depending on what it is can be worse than physical pain.

Those that don't accept this are stupid, or so afraid of physical pain that they must not step outside their bubblewrap.

The overall point, is every collection of humanity, if it is to be civilized, free, and equitable must be based on the Rule of Law.

It is time for CCP's Lord of the Flies experiment in immaturity to come to end, and with it this whole disgusting chapter in EVE Online. It is time for scamming to come to an end, all forms. Because as long as that type of gameplay is allowed, we will have this kind of filth in our midst.

To the EVE Online Community and CCP make your choice, will you be champions of hard fought competition and civility... or purveyors of barbarity, cowardice and human depravity?


And bread more eve players like you that run away from confrontation? Hell no...


Hey look its the slayer of mining barges, who wouldn't show his face after he declared war. wondered when your panzy ass would show up in this.
Sato Page
Auctor Illuminatas Infinitum
#4387 - 2014-03-27 05:02:26 UTC
IT IS ON. also ib4 lock

Dinsdale Pirannha for [u]CEO [/u]of [u]CCP[/u]

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4388 - 2014-03-27 05:02:52 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Everyone knows emotional pain is real, and depending on what it is can be worse than physical pain.

Those that don't accept this are stupid, or so afraid of physical pain that they must not step outside their bubblewrap.

The overall point, is every collection of humanity, if it is to be civilized, free, and equitable must be based on the Rule of Law.

It is time for CCP's Lord of the Flies experiment in immaturity to come to end, and with it this whole disgusting chapter in EVE Online. It is time for scamming to come to an end, all forms. Because as long as that type of gameplay is allowed, we will have this kind of filth in our midst.

To the EVE Online Community and CCP make your choice, will you be champions of hard fought competition and civility... or purveyors of barbarity, cowardice and human depravity?


And bread more eve players like you that run away from confrontation? Hell no...


Hey look its the slayer of mining barges, who wouldn't show his face after he declared war. wondered when your panzy ass would show up in this.


Hey look, it's Kyperion, the guy that drops corp when he gets wardecced.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Drone 16
Holy Horde
#4389 - 2014-03-27 05:04:45 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Drone 16 wrote:


You sir, with your uncanny ability to refer to other people who may or may not be analyzing statistics are a true gem. We need more people around here that can parrot their favorite news source and then use other's intellect as a substitute for their own. Why don't you go ahead and share some of your own analysis with us instead of the people you puppet to make yourself feel smart. Go on we'll wait.


I'm not parroting anything. I provided an article that demonstrated actual rational criticism of a conclusion formed from statistics. The source is irrelevant, it's the content that matters and how well formed the argument is. If this exact same article had been produced by the Daily Fail, word for word, I would have linked it from there as well. The bottom line is, it's asking a hard question, but a relevant question. I suggest you find the question difficult because you might be afraid of the answer, or the question itself conflicts with a preconceived but unsubstantiated conclusion.

I'm not trying to substituted my intellect with anything, either. Even the smartest people in the world still cite their sources. You think Richard Dawkins, one of the most cited authors in history, doesn't cite his work? Doesn't work with knowledge established by other? No, crediting the work of others is more important than one's pride in their intellect. If anything, it demonstrates intellectual honesty - I didn't think of this question, someone else did, and I'm not going to pretend it was my idea.

I don't need to provide my own analysis because a perfectly acceptable critical analysis has already been done. What you are asking of me is therefore intellectually redundant until a conclusion can be drawn from the existing analysis, which I'll bet my bottom dollar you haven't even read. This makes any analysis I make doubly redundant, since I'll bet every dollar after my bottom one that you wouldn't read that either.


You are a sophomore aren't you? It must be that. You know just enough to impress the girls, but no enough to see how stupid you sound to those with life experience and higher education. We don't need to use our knowledge as a bludgeon, we are accomplished in our own right. On that point I will say good night because you aren't worth my time to educate, at this point you know it all. In a few years you will see how much you don't know and then you may remember my words.

It puts the peanutbutter on itself or it leaves the bonus round... - E1's greatest Hits

Mario Putzo
#4390 - 2014-03-27 05:04:48 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Everyone knows emotional pain is real, and depending on what it is can be worse than physical pain.

Those that don't accept this are stupid, or so afraid of physical pain that they must not step outside their bubblewrap.

The overall point, is every collection of humanity, if it is to be civilized, free, and equitable must be based on the Rule of Law.

It is time for CCP's Lord of the Flies experiment in immaturity to come to end, and with it this whole disgusting chapter in EVE Online. It is time for scamming to come to an end, all forms. Because as long as that type of gameplay is allowed, we will have this kind of filth in our midst.

To the EVE Online Community and CCP make your choice, will you be champions of hard fought competition and civility... or purveyors of barbarity, cowardice and human depravity?


And bread more eve players like you that run away from confrontation? Hell no...


Hey look its the slayer of mining barges, who wouldn't show his face after he declared war. wondered when your panzy ass would show up in this.


Hey look, it's Kyperion, the guy that drops corp when he gets wardecced.


Wardec people who want to PVP?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4391 - 2014-03-27 05:05:23 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, if I lose on the last level of Mario Brothers, instead of the first level, that's when I can get a free pass on making death threats and yelling obscene racist things? Because I invested time into that, right?

Everyone handles their emotions differently, everyone expresses themselves differently. Someone might lose Mario at the last level and launch into a tirade directed at the game's creators, sure, but I imagine most people would just grumble or maybe hurl the controller across the room.

Human nature.


Is Nintendo at fault when someone flips their lid because they lost at Mario Brothers?

No matter what that person does, the answer is no. Nintendo is not culpable because someone is incapable of handling themselves like an adult.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4392 - 2014-03-27 05:05:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
At this point Erotica 1 and his alts / sycophants will do just about anything to redirect attention from their little sadist circle.

They tried to:

start new threads
troll
shift topics
play whataboutism
**** on the issue of suicides in the military (i dont know why this is stupid)

All they did is simply dig a deeper hole for themselves.

BAN THE SADISTS ONE AND ALL.



You have posted alot in this monster thread... notice how you people respond to you. And not liking what you have to say?

The funny thing is... it is just not people on Eroticas side that disagrees with you. Do I like the bonus room? Nope... Do I care about it.. Nope.

You are excessive, abrasive and seem to lack general knowledge. Throwing around thin veiled threats and blowing thing out of proportion.

You have made more personal threats then Erotica ever has. I find that amusing.

Thank goodness more level headed people are in charge of EVE and not people like you.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4393 - 2014-03-27 05:08:31 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
At this point Erotica 1 and his alts / sycophants will do just about anything to redirect attention from their little sadist circle.

They tried to:

start new threads
troll
shift topics
play whataboutism
**** on the issue of suicides in the military (i dont know why this is stupid)

All they did is simply dig a deeper hole for themselves.

BAN THE SADISTS ONE AND ALL.



You have posted alot in this monster thread... notice how you people respond to you. And not liking what you have to say?

The funny thing is... it is just not people on Eroticas side that disagrees with you. Do I like the bonus room? Nope... Do I care about it.. Nope.

You are excessive, abrasive and seem to lack general knowledge. Throwing around thin veiled threats and blowing thing out of proportion.

You have made more personal threats then Erotica ever has. I find that amusing.

Thank goodness more level headed people are in charge of EVE and not people like you.


+1

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#4394 - 2014-03-27 05:08:41 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Is Nintendo at fault when someone flips their lid because they lost at Mario Brothers?

No matter what that person does, the answer is no. Nintendo is not culpable because someone is incapable of handling themselves like an adult.

Of course not.

But if it was an online, interactive version of Mario, where the creators allowed people to enter situations that a reasonable person (one who appreciates the inevitability of human nature) may become highly emotionally distressed, then yes. Smile

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

Part-Time Wormhole Pirate Full-Time Supermodel

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Muestereate
Minions LLC
#4395 - 2014-03-27 05:09:33 UTC
Korhaka Mirunas wrote:
Dieterlin wrote:
Korhaka Mirunas wrote:
If we assume the whole conversation happened ingame, what was broken in the EULA? Please show me the paragraph(s) explaining.


Section 6, Part A "Specifically Restricted Conduct", Section 5.

EULA wrote:
You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-party’s intellectual property rights.


Ero1 definitely conducted "harassing behavior" outside the scope of normal gameplay, and the victim made threatening comments. Both of them should be banned.



The only person to use threats was Sohkar, I have listened to the sound clip from start to finish. Erotica 1 never raised his voice and never threatened anyone, was not obscene, did not harass, was not abusive or defamatory.


Eroticas voice is processed, A simple compressor could flatten any and all or just some of Eroticas volume fluctuations
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#4396 - 2014-03-27 05:11:34 UTC
No, he is just a smoker and doesnt have the ability to intone
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4397 - 2014-03-27 05:11:41 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
E1 & Co. just made a cardinal mistake of pissing on the united states service men and women.

God knows i disagree with some things US gov't does, but I never disrespect and belittle the brave men and women who are sent to do dangerous jobs overseas.

For your little sadist circle to laugh about some very serious issues facing the service men and women is not cool. Especially since EVE Online is where a large number of them choose to spend their free time.

But keep digging.



Unless those issues don't actually exist except in the minds of people who misinterpret and fail to analyse statistics.



hang on i will link this to a couple of marine buddies of mine on TS. they were on the fence about this issue. they wont be after your sadist circle proverbially pissed on their dead buddy.


tell them semper fi. then let me talk with them. i have a marine issue they can help settle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#4398 - 2014-03-27 05:11:51 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
Eroticas voice is processed, A simple compressor could flatten any and all or just some of Eroticas volume fluctuations
Does that make it threatening or not threatening?

Or were the threats in reference to the words spoken and not only the tone?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4399 - 2014-03-27 05:12:02 UTC
Drone 16 wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Drone 16 wrote:


You sir, with your uncanny ability to refer to other people who may or may not be analyzing statistics are a true gem. We need more people around here that can parrot their favorite news source and then use other's intellect as a substitute for their own. Why don't you go ahead and share some of your own analysis with us instead of the people you puppet to make yourself feel smart. Go on we'll wait.


I'm not parroting anything. I provided an article that demonstrated actual rational criticism of a conclusion formed from statistics. The source is irrelevant, it's the content that matters and how well formed the argument is. If this exact same article had been produced by the Daily Fail, word for word, I would have linked it from there as well. The bottom line is, it's asking a hard question, but a relevant question. I suggest you find the question difficult because you might be afraid of the answer, or the question itself conflicts with a preconceived but unsubstantiated conclusion.

I'm not trying to substituted my intellect with anything, either. Even the smartest people in the world still cite their sources. You think Richard Dawkins, one of the most cited authors in history, doesn't cite his work? Doesn't work with knowledge established by other? No, crediting the work of others is more important than one's pride in their intellect. If anything, it demonstrates intellectual honesty - I didn't think of this question, someone else did, and I'm not going to pretend it was my idea.

I don't need to provide my own analysis because a perfectly acceptable critical analysis has already been done. What you are asking of me is therefore intellectually redundant until a conclusion can be drawn from the existing analysis, which I'll bet my bottom dollar you haven't even read. This makes any analysis I make doubly redundant, since I'll bet every dollar after my bottom one that you wouldn't read that either.


You are a sophomore aren't you? It must be that. You know just enough to impress the girls, but no enough to see how stupid you sound to those with life experience and higher education. We don't need to use our knowledge as a bludgeon, we are accomplished in our own right. On that point I will say good night because you aren't worth my time to educate, at this point you know it all. In a few years you will see how much you don't know and then you may remember my words.



Again, you're making assumptions about me based on assumptions about me. You're assuming I don't have life experience, or higher education, and I'm not pretending to know anything. I asked a question, based on an analysis of statistics, and you got your panties in a bunch and pretended to know something about me. It's not my problem if you don't like the question, it's also not my problem if you don't like me or how I presented the question, and I don't have to tell you anything about me or explain myself. Who I am, my life experience, my education and intellect, it's all entirely irrelevant to the question.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4400 - 2014-03-27 05:14:49 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Everyone knows emotional pain is real, and depending on what it is can be worse than physical pain.

Those that don't accept this are stupid, or so afraid of physical pain that they must not step outside their bubblewrap.

The overall point, is every collection of humanity, if it is to be civilized, free, and equitable must be based on the Rule of Law.

It is time for CCP's Lord of the Flies experiment in immaturity to come to end, and with it this whole disgusting chapter in EVE Online. It is time for scamming to come to an end, all forms. Because as long as that type of gameplay is allowed, we will have this kind of filth in our midst.

To the EVE Online Community and CCP make your choice, will you be champions of hard fought competition and civility... or purveyors of barbarity, cowardice and human depravity?


And bread more eve players like you that run away from confrontation? Hell no...


Hey look its the slayer of mining barges, who wouldn't show his face after he declared war. wondered when your panzy ass would show up in this.


Hey look, it's Kyperion, the guy that drops corp when he gets wardecced.


Wardec people who want to PVP?


How am I to know if they want to PVP? Do I ask them politely first? "Hey, do you mind if we wardec you? You know, cuz in this PVP game, I just have to check if you actually want to PVP first. I shouldn't assume that just because you're playing a PVP game that you want to PVP, of course. It's not like you joined it not knowing it was a PVP game or anything."

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104