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Sarah Flynt
Red Cross Mercenaries
Silent Infinity
#3861 - 2014-03-26 22:05:42 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:
Right would this angry man known as Sohkar have any affiliations with the recent Malaysian jet that went missing? Was he angry then? Does he get angry often?

Seriously? What is wrong with you?

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3862 - 2014-03-26 22:05:56 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Time to flog the dead horse again.

The issue as I see it is not who should be punished. It's what should CCP be doing about this?


CCP should ban everyone in Goonswarm for torturing me all these years.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#3863 - 2014-03-26 22:06:12 UTC
Sarah Flynt wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:
Right would this angry man known as Sohkar have any affiliations with the recent Malaysian jet that went missing? Was he angry then? Does he get angry often?

Seriously? What is wrong with you?


/me puts on his wizard hat and robe
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3864 - 2014-03-26 22:06:16 UTC
JediRobin wrote:
+1 I fully agree with Jester

It's about time CCP cleans up the scumbags like this.


I agree. Clear EVE of Racist Biggots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#3865 - 2014-03-26 22:06:19 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
The only purpose is to humiliate the victim for as long as possible. The assets are already taken so there's no other point to it.

Completely false. It's about ISK only.

pleeeeease! Don't make me 'like' member of goonswarm!
He looks really smart comparing to you Sad

Seriously: respect to James Amril-Kesh. I didn't expect such posts from him.

Well he's a smart guy. I don't know if he's really that smart compared to me though.

Oh god.
Druthlen
The Carlisle Group
#3866 - 2014-03-26 22:06:27 UTC
What makes me really sick is that these psychopaths are trying to convince themselves this was gameplay even though they had absolutely nothing to gain from continuing once they had his assets. After that it was all about the tears and was completely personal attack on a human being. They cant see that. They cant tell where the char ends and the human begins. I wonder if they would consider drama at an eve event emergent gameplay. After all its an eve event and therefore ingame following their logic.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#3867 - 2014-03-26 22:06:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Ila Dace wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
David Kir wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


Anger is an excuse for death threats and racism. Man, those *** guys must be continually pissed.

While I hate to use a real life example, I'll do it here. It's like self defense. You can defend your self against someone else trying to hurt you, but there is a limit to that. A guy slaps you in the face makes you angry and justifies self defense, but thats no reason to kill the guy, chop him up , kidnap his family and force feed his remains to them (srry, was watcing Southpark).

More than once I've seen someone go too far in self defense (like for example chasing down a guy who snatched an iphone, getting the iphone back the procedding to stomp the theif to the point where he ends up with brain damage and multiple broken bones) and the result has been the appropriate one: the original attacker is usually convicted where as the person who went too far gets even more time.

That's what should happen here. If somehting happens to Erotica1 (and well, who knows, it might be justified), the racist guy throwing real life death threats should get even more.


Yes.
But your real life analogy is not accurate.

E1 was not harmed here.
You can say whatever you want, but no harm came of this to Erotica 1.

The one and only harmed person, here, is the gullible man called Sokhar.
He was provoked and humiliated, recorded and made fun of.


No one said anything about Erotica1 being hurt, HOWEVER Erotica1 was subjected to death threats, which is WAY worse than losing some video game assets because you were greedy.

That is the point. Sohkar or whatever his name was had a right to be mad. He had no right to break the law and spew racist abuse at anyone. He went too far.

To proper thing to have done was tell erotica1 to go screw himself (which isn't a threat but rather a fun at home activity) and disconnect. That he did not makes his actions more reprehensible than anything Erotica1 did or could have done.

*Cough* "Proximate cause"


Proximate cause doesn't give you the right to break the law or over-react. If someone runs a red light and hits another car and the driver of the car that got hit beheads the other guy and wears his skull as a helmet, can he claim 'proximate cause' and not get locked up for the rest of his days lol?

As I said, there is no level of provocation that can justify death threats and racial abuse.
Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#3868 - 2014-03-26 22:06:50 UTC
David Kir wrote:


You forgot that he never agreed to being provoked and humiliated.
He agreed to singing (et caetera).

There's a difference between agreeing to dig a well and then being told to dig ten.


So he agreed to singing and how did he get humiliated again?

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3869 - 2014-03-26 22:07:03 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Sarah Flynt wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:
Right would this angry man known as Sohkar have any affiliations with the recent Malaysian jet that went missing? Was he angry then? Does he get angry often?

Seriously? What is wrong with you?


/me puts on his wizard hat and robe


Holy cow you know of bloodninja????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#3870 - 2014-03-26 22:08:20 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:

Holy cow you know of bloodninja????


I'm oldschool like that :)
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3871 - 2014-03-26 22:08:46 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:

Holy cow you know of bloodninja????


I'm oldschool like that :)


Your over 9000 in my book now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU
Upde
Upde Harris Industries
#3872 - 2014-03-26 22:08:56 UTC
Drone 16 wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:


"Get Bent"


I passed you in Amarr an hour ago I think. or your alt, who used that phrase.

So, how is scamming going in Amarr? Lure any children with promises of isk today? or just adults?


"Get bent" by whom? In which direction? Sounds painful and possibly...deadly. OMG it's a death threat! que histrionics and had wringing from Navi. Roll



this sounds like a job for Bender J Rodriguez.......................
One Eyed Runner
GetYaTitsOut
#3873 - 2014-03-26 22:09:22 UTC
Anslo wrote:
This community has shown just how dichotomous it is. It will be interesting to see what side CCP choses. Whether by action or inaction, they will be picking a side. And it will be very interesting.



and very sad in a way also

I live in Jita so f*ck off
David Kir
Hotbirds
#3874 - 2014-03-26 22:09:34 UTC
Danalee wrote:
David Kir wrote:


You forgot that he never agreed to being provoked and humiliated.
He agreed to singing (et caetera).

There's a difference between agreeing to dig a well and then being told to dig ten.


So he agreed to singing and how did he get humiliated again?

D.

Bear


I should know better than arguing with people like you; I can't show you that which you refuse to see.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#3875 - 2014-03-26 22:09:43 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:

Your over 9000 in my book now.


And you are in my blue list :)
Abla Tive
#3876 - 2014-03-26 22:11:03 UTC
Hours of humiliation is clearly abuse.

Abuse is clearly against the terms of service.

Violation of terms of service is legitimate grounds for banning.

Where is the confusion?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#3877 - 2014-03-26 22:11:42 UTC
David Kir wrote:
Danalee wrote:
David Kir wrote:


You forgot that he never agreed to being provoked and humiliated.
He agreed to singing (et caetera).

There's a difference between agreeing to dig a well and then being told to dig ten.


So he agreed to singing and how did he get humiliated again?

D.

Bear


I should know better than arguing with people like you; I can't show you that which you refuse to see.


What we see is you defending a racist who threatened another players life and his mother's life rather than disconnect from TS.
Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#3878 - 2014-03-26 22:12:14 UTC
David Kir wrote:

I should know better than arguing with people like you; I can't show you that which IS NOT THERE.


Fixed it for you.

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#3879 - 2014-03-26 22:12:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Abla Tive wrote:
Hours of humiliation is clearly abuse.

Abuse is clearly against the terms of service.

Violation of terms of service is legitimate grounds for banning.

Where is the confusion?



Where?

It might be in the fact that you did not mention the guy (grown and married and according to him a military veteran) making the death threats or racially abuse someone because they said they were Afro-Canadian. That's where my confusion lies.
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3880 - 2014-03-26 22:13:00 UTC
Abla Tive wrote:
Hours of humiliation is clearly abuse.

Abuse is clearly against the terms of service.

Violation of terms of service is legitimate grounds for banning.

Where is the confusion?


The Eula for the millionth time states "in the game" not outside the game in ts3 mumble vent facechat ect ect ect. Which part are you unsure of?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU