EVE General Discussion

The US government (and I) would disagree with your nuanced definition. Here's what is posted as a definition on stopbullying.gov (didn't even know that website existed until I googled the definition):

Except for it does. Multiple recordings of abuse sessions, multiple victims, pattern of behaviour....

Oh buddy, the hammer will come down on E1, and it will come down hard.

Except for it does. Multiple recordings of abuse sessions, multiple victims, pattern of behaviour....

Oh buddy, the hammer will come down on E1, and it will come down hard.

There are currently ~2989 posts in this thread. Give or take the posts while writing this. Lets make it 3000. Even if that was a different person per post. That is only 10% of the people currently logged in to eve (30310). Since most of the posts are from a small number of people its not even close to that (prob ~1% or less). Since most people are not logged into eve at the same time its even far smaller (> .1%).

Most people who play eve simply don't read, or post on the forums and most probably have never heard of Erotica.

Why? Because we don't care. We are busy playing the game.

This is what I'm talking about. How sick would you have to be to equate paedophilia and the plethora of crimes you listed with what happened between 2 adults in the context of a video game, where one adult willingly subjected himself to verbal harassment/abuse when all he had to do to 'walk away' would be to hit the power button on his PC?


That is a very sick and twisted mind if you honestly feel that these things are on the same level.

I'm confused about the term 'cyber bullying'

To me, bullying is REAL LIFE harassment/abuse (either through physical or non-physical means), where the victim does not have the option of walking away.

What does that have to do with being harassed on the internet where all you have to do to 'walk away' is to hit the power button on your computer?

Especially seeing as how the supposed victim chose to continue to subject himself repeatedly to such behaviour, over digital pixels which have no bearing on real life? I could possibly understand it if this happened on social media like Facebook etc., where real identities mean the border between real and virtual worlds becomes slightly blurred. But over a video game, which has absolutely NO bearing on real life?

I don't like something, I turn the TV/Monitor/PC/console off and do something else. Easy.

Some people seem to go to great lengths to find something to be offended about. Weird.

EDIT: PS, all you people condoning violence or comparing this/making silly analogies to real life crimes need to get your priorities sorted.

The US government (and I) would disagree with your nuanced definition. Here's what is posted as a definition on stopbullying.gov (didn't even know that website existed until I googled the definition):

"Cyberbullying is bullying that takes place using electronic technology. Electronic technology includes devices and equipment such as cell phones, computers, and tablets as well as communication tools including social media sites, text messages, chat, and websites.

Examples of cyberbullying include mean text messages or emails, rumors sent by email or posted on social networking sites, and embarrassing pictures, videos, websites, or fake profiles."

No mention of "typically carried out by acquaintances" (stated) or "easy to walk away from" (implied).

Bullying Definition:

Bullying is unwanted, aggressive behavior among school aged children that involves a real or perceived power imbalance.

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I have been playing this game for many many years now, and have never really been comfortable with the whole scamming thing. I think it spoils the game and actually drives people away. Scamming as become so prevalent in Eve its over taken the good aspects of it. Look at jita every single post in chat is a scam.

I dont like the fact that goonswarm do this constantly to a point its part of their culture, and sometimes the way they do it is a little creepy and weird and wrong.

But this is a whole new level, and its just not about a scam, its cyber bullying, torture at is very worse. I am sure this is certainly not the first case of this and its happening to others by other eve players.

You can hear from the start where this was going, and Erotica1 sounds really creepy tbh. They carried on for 2 hours, even when they knew the guy was getting upset, this is when you stop. Actually it should of never started.

This is for me the real darkside of eve, and where scamming takes it past gameplay. I have never played or seen a game that allows this to happen, or even breeds that type of person. The very idea of scamming has created these people, and CCP certainly has to take brunt of the blame for this as they endorse this type of behavior, but its gone a a step too far. as stated I am sure there are many Erotica1s lurking about.

This is just not scamming, its parasidic and morally wrong. Personally i would of called the police and given them the recording as people are now getting prosecuted for this type of thing. What gets me most is that there have been a few cases on twitter etc where people have committed suicide because of people like this. What if this guy did?

CCP has a duty just like twitter and others to protect its users.

However being a veteran player of this game, even after the time an investment i have made, every moral fibre in me is twitching. I am now seriously thinking do i want to pay, play or be a part of this game, ccp and its community if this is something that is happening to people. I certainly do not want to be associated with an organisation or game that endorses such actions and game play anymore.

Keep pushing that line mate. Maybe it will make you sleep better.

Meanwhile, I will sleep better knowing that I did everything i could to bring down a dangerous online predator, who lures, victimises and abuses vulnerable victims online, possibly underaged. And who knows? Maybe there is a whole ring of you doing this - like a pedophile ring - same methodology. E1 could be playing more then 1 game, looking for victims in all sorts of environments.