EVE General Discussion

So, you think that basically as long as somewhere somebody does have an empty belly all other perceived problems are irrelevant?

While there sure are huge differences in magnitude, your argument is plain silly. That there are bigger problems is no excuse not to solve the smaller ones that may actually even have a solution to them.

Otherwise you need to stop cancer research (1st world problem) as long as there is a war on this globe. Would be kinda silly, wouldn't it.

Cyberbullying is a thing for sure, but this isn't it. For one, it is extremely difficult to walk away from most cyberbullying, as its typically carried out by real-life acquaintances, and thus it is easy to pursue the victim across various media platforms. Unlike this situation, which was a single event between complete strangers with more than adequate tools to end any and all contact from the other party.

Perhaps we should take this conversation over to the TS user group forums, since this entire issue involves their software and what happened with/on it. It really has little, if anything, to do with EVE.

No? Because that would be silly? Because you'll be laughed at for claiming something illegal happened?

Good point.

Yes I am. E1 likes to abuse victims and hide behind the rules. I like to bring the real world on top of him using those same rules.

not that simple mate. Its the same for people who get harassed on social media, they can chose to walk away any time they like, but people still get into hotwater. Look up cases of facebook trolling etc for reference. Its not really the same thing as what happened here as we can differentiate between a troll laying it on thick on facebook to someone whose friend just killed themselves and an EVE manipulator. In this case though lots of grey zones have been entered which make it really difficult for both CCP and outside observers to clearlyt differentiate between the game and IRL.

There are 2 camps on this case.

Camp 1 - the it was a game scam and the bonus room is levelled against the in game character
Camp 2 - it was a "cyber" assault on someone emotionally and was levelled against the person driving the character and not the in game character

It will be interesting to see the official CCP position on all of this.

Because he was greedy.

Absolutely. Its irrelevant. But its a nice attempt to shift the blame from the people who did do the wrong thing onto the victim. Actually, not its pretty transparent and a bad attempt.

Somebody took his stuff, granted it was just pixels, however that's irrelevant. Whats relevant is a number of people deliberately set out to humiliate and embarrass another person without any regard for them at all. They also made fun of him because he had a speech impediment which is vilification based on disability. There are a lot of things wrong with what they did and your pathetic attempts to try to justify the behavior is, well, pathetic.

Also relevant is if it happened again and a more imbalanced person was deliberately targeted and treated the same way causing that person to harm themselves then CCP would likely be liable in part since they are now fully aware of whats occurring and doing nothing would be pretty stupid from a legal point of view.

CCP has nothing to gain by allowing this behavior to continue and potentially a lot to lose.

Oh buddy, buddy. Its not MY credibility. Thats not how it works my friend.

They follow up EVERY tip. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Its their job. They have a list, they go through every single line.

They will come. Americans dont mess around with pedophelia, online luring, **** and abuse of victims. E1 is smack down in the middle of this. And I would not associate with him. Not when FBI starts digging.

Oh yes, I fully agree that facebook stuff is really blurred, as the perpetrator and victim's (in most cases just the victims though) REAL NAME/IDENTITY etc. are involved. However, in a video game, where you can play any character as anonymously as you wish, where the things you fight/scam/mine/kill rats over are just imaginary pixels, I can't see how people still subject themselves to humiliation

or maybe its because it is related to EVE as it is the leveraging of CCP IP that gets people into the Bonus Room and the subsequent publication of said bonus room encounters is directly linked to EVE as a game. If this was just a random conversation that wasn't instigated on the back of in game activity no one would give a damn least of all CCP. But because is puts CCP, their game and their reputation into a potential meat grinder its safe to say this is very EVE related.