EVE General Discussion

I have a puppy that I found in my online community.. I treat it nice, give it treats, pet it, tell it that I care about it, give it everything it ever wanted in the world, a stuff toy to call its friend, good food, emotional support.

I then torture that puppy, bring in some friends, say "lets have fun", and abuse the puppy, humiliate it, harass it, taunt it, make it cry, destroy its emotional state, belittle it, but I don't physically hurt it, I record it and show it to other puppies and my friends, say "I broke this puppy, but here, I didn't physically abuse it". I splash it on the internet, mail it to the authorities, have a reporter follow me and ask questions about it, record the torture, then laugh at it.

I found this puppy in an online community, I am a member of that community, should I stay in that community?

It was not illegal by the online communities standards, as I did not torture the puppy using any resource of the community. The puppy should have Hardened The F Up (HTFU).



I get another puppy from that online community, I treat it nice, give it treats, pet it, tell it that I care about it, give it everything it ever wanted in the world, a stuff toy to call its friend, good food, emotional support.

I then torture that second puppy, bring in some friends, say "lets have fun", and abuse the puppy, humiliate it, harass it, taunt it, make it cry, destroy its emotional state, belittle it, but I don't physically hurt it, I record it and show it to other puppies and my friends, say "I broke this puppy, but here, I didn't physically abuse it". I splash it on the internet, mail it to the authorities, have a reporter follow me and ask questions about it, record the torture, then laugh at it.

I return to that community and show them what I did. I found this puppy in an online community, I am a member of that community, should I stay in that community?

It was not illegal by the online communities standards, as I did not torture the puppy using any resource of the community. The puppy should have Hardened The F Up (HTFU).



I find an old man in that online community, I treat him nice, send him gifts, tell it that I care, give him everything he was looking for in the community, people to call his friends, emotional support.

I then torture that old man, bring in some friends, say "lets have fun", and abuse the old man, humiliate him, harass him, taunt him, make him cry, destroy his emotional state, belittle him, but I don't physically hurt him, I record him and show it to other people and my friends, say "I broke this old man, but here, I didn't physically abuse him". I splash it on the internet, mail it to the authorities, have a reporter follow me and ask questions about it, record the torture, then laugh at it.


I return to that community and show them what I did. I found this old man in an online community, I am a member of that community, should I stay in that community?



It was not illegal by the online communities standards, as I did not torture the old man using any resource of the community. The old man should have Hardened The F Up (HTFU).


I find an 12 year old kid in that online community, I treat him nice, send him gifts, tell it that I care, give him everything he was looking for in the community, people to call his friends, emotional support.

I then torture that 12 year old kid, bring in some friends, say "lets have fun", and abuse the kid, humiliate him, harass him, taunt him, make him cry, destroy his emotional state, belittle him, but I don't physically hurt him, I record him and show it to other people and my friends, say "I broke this 12 year old kid, but here, I didn't physically abuse him". I splash it on the internet, mail it to the authorities, have a reporter follow me and ask questions about it, record the torture, then laugh at it.


I return to that community and show them what I did. I found this 12 year old kid in an online community, I am a member of that community, should I stay in that community?



It was not illegal by the online communities standards, as I did not torture the 12 year old kid using any resource of the community. The 12 year old kid should have Hardened The F Up (HTFU).



I find an woman in that online community, I treat her nice, send her gifts, tell her that I care, give her everything she was looking for in the community, people to call her friends, emotional support.

I then torture that woman, bring in some friends, say "lets have fun", and verbally abuse the woman, humiliate her, harass her, taunt her, make her cry, destroy her emotional state, belittle her, but I don't physically hurt her, I record her and show it to other people and my friends, say "I broke this woman, but here, I didn't physically abuse her". I splash it on the internet, mail it to the authorities, have a reporter follow me and ask questions about it, record the torture, then laugh at it.


I return to that community and show them what I did. I found this woman in an online community, I am a member of that community, should I stay in that community?

So.. when was this wrong?

Actually, I looked it up to check before I used it. It means what I think it means.

I also clarified that your taking pleasure from the violence is just as concerning. As it would be to any reasonable human being but, what you're saying is that you would applaud the violence? Then you are inciting it, and that's just as concerning.

You are quite the concerning individual. Please avoid having children and stay away from other peoples' babies. Thank you.

As much as i agree with some of your points. I cant stop thinking how the hell you get yourself into those debates everytime? How come it eventually goes into "i didnt say that, i said that" and all those lawyery stunts you use to justify your stand?

I understand you are a lawyer, me too (not american). But seeing as just lately a different thread was stripped of 30 pages of this conversations (thx ISD) i cant seem to wonder what is it you are doing wrong? :)

And dont say its their fault ;) if it repeats everytime, something must be going on...

I think this boils down to 'You can't scam an honest person'

It's not tasteful, I wouldn't say I approve of it, but again, if the person getting scammed/humiliated simply clicked the 'X' in the corner of the screen then it all ends, they can then click the 'ignore' button on Erotica1 and that's the end of it. This person chose to sing and humiliate themselves because they didn't simply close the window and go back to earning ISK the HONEST way.

In b4 recruitment scams.

That guy is a lawyer? Crap on a crunchy cracker, that's the 1st thing I read that makes total sense.

Some of the singing ransoms obtained by The Bastards are very fun to listen to. My personal favourite is this one.

Would you care to expand upon why Erotica and the like should suffer real world punishment for actions that are carried out within a virtual world that does not forbid said actions, no matter how distasteful you or I may find them?

Perspective is a quality that some in this thread appear to be lacking. If you don't like something that somebody is doing within the confines of Eve, then punish them for it, in game. Threats of real world violence for actions carried out within the context of Eve are not acceptable, people who make such threats, or condone them should be stomped on from a great height by both CCP and local authorities.

I'm baffled how anyone could say because of some hypothetical stuff some others float to the surface, that what the "people" behind the "bonus room" have done, should go by like nothing happened or even that it's ok (which is not).

Can we get back to the point here please?

If rilling up people to commit suicide in a few minutes speech is a big nono, then why is this hours long grieving & torture of a fellow player and human being, not? It's equally disgusting.

Don't tell me disgusting behavior is ok in EVE. I'm pretty sure it's not because I remember some pretty low responses when Vile Rat passed away and the Dev's that jumped on those.


But hey lets be all proud of this. '
E1' is rolling over the floor from laughter together with apparently Malcanis.

Sadly this is the internet, Reason is not in as great a supply as we might wish. Having said that though I wholeheartedly agree with you.

LoL. Only reason why Erotica1 decided not to run for CSM eventually is because Malcanis is already enough ;)