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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#2481 - 2014-03-26 11:28:45 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I would have worked to set clear guidelines that the alleged scammer knows what's kosher and what's not.


The problem is that if you draw definitive lines in the sand, the boundary-pushers will keep sticking their toes over the line in an attempt to push the line further out of their way.

So no, don't expect any clear ideas of what is "kosher".


But we read about all of this well in advance. This "scandal" was public awhile ago on a widely followed blog, www.minerbumping.com which CCP reads. People are only angry now because Ripard (sp?) told them to be.


Yep. Called it earlier, this is a manufactured crisis. The only real question is why Ripard is doing this at this time.


Well he has had a 'Eve is full of bad people and thats bad' theme on his blog for a couple of weeks now. Not that I'm accusing anyone of having an agenda or concern trolling the entire community.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

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Kyperion
#2482 - 2014-03-26 11:29:07 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Galdrak wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I certainly do hope many of my critics here take the time to read www.minerbumping.com because you will find thousands of examples of utter filth spewed by highsec miners.

I assure you, we are the good guys. Take a look.



good guys >.< . only in your head your a good guy. to me your just a scammer who went too far because you could. you pushed that dude so far he lost it totally and you step back and say he is the one to blame. i bet you are smiling as you read everything posted in this thread.


If you can't take responsibility for yourself and have a little self control over virtual assets in a ******* video game then yes, you are to blame. The ONLY one to blame, for handing those assets over consensually in the first place, and jumping on TS consensually to get them back.


Its fuckheads like you, who would blame a Woman for getting raped because she was 'too pretty'!
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#2483 - 2014-03-26 11:29:17 UTC
Punishing Erotica1 will not eradicate the LOLcows that populate Eve. You cannot ban stupidity. Why do people think you can regulate intelligence into LOLcows?
Big Lynx
#2484 - 2014-03-26 11:29:23 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
I agree that was a very good post. Meanwhile I get someone asking very broad questions wanting yes/no answers which I assure you will be damned if I do/damned if I don't. The funny thing is I already gave the very answers they seek, just a few pages back.


You right mate. Banhammer coming. You should have stopped after you scammed his billions and not go on a humililation circle jerk trip. Live with the consequences.

Better create a new account now.
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#2485 - 2014-03-26 11:29:30 UTC
I do not have any issues with scamming in Eve. I do not have any issues with Ero1 doing bonus rounds in order to rip off the greedy.

I however, do think that it says something about a person if he derives fun out of debasing other persons.

Now you say it's the "victim" that debases himself. That may be true to a certain degree, however

- the people in the bonus room (not the victims) spend quite a lot of time there not to gain ISK (which wouldn't take that long), but to have fun watching someone debasing himself.

I understand Schadenfreude as well as any guy, but you usually have that when the mighty fall. Whoever enters the bonus round is with a very high probability not among the brightest on this planet.

The whole concept selects the weakest persons and then they are being made fun of.

Now Ero says that it's these people that then tend to go rampage spewing racist and other things...

well yes, they do. They obviously shouldn't, but if they were not challenged to begin with they would not get into the bonus round and would not have anything to spew (for the moment at least).

If I'd scam it would be my aim to scam like Bernie Maddoff (the rich and mighty). The bonus round is more looking at the village idiot after you told him that the village beauty secretly loves him.

But hey, guess everyone does what they can do best.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#2486 - 2014-03-26 11:30:06 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I agree that was a very good post. Meanwhile I get someone asking very broad questions wanting yes/no answers which I assure you will be damned if I do/damned if I don't. The funny thing is I already gave the very answers they seek, just a few pages back.

Post number please?
Incidentally, iv no grudge here, this is a game.Blink


Oh God, ask me in a 3 page thread, not 125 lol

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2487 - 2014-03-26 11:30:08 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Bjurn Akely wrote:
Frankly I doubt you care.


Nobody cares. This is a vendetta against Erotica 1. Hence why people are simply dismissing his threats of violence and racism of Sokhar as if they were 'justified'. They're not. But no one is hanging him by the neck with anywhere near the same passion that they're going after Ero. This is a witchhunt, straight outta the 16th Century, run by the 'morality police' like a religious inquisition.



The saddest, most funny part is...switch some database numbers, log in a different toon, and suddenly this controversy gets flipped on it's head.

You know just as well as I do, if it were a +5.0 pillar of the community good guy pulling the same scam on a lowlife gankur, there'd be high-fives and backpatting galore.


I know. I've known it since this thread went up. The hate against Ero was well established long before this. This is just the spark that lit the 'outrage' of the community. They were waiting for it, though, and as soon as it came, they pounced.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#2488 - 2014-03-26 11:30:31 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Prie Mary wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:

Typical argument for someone who has no desire to engage in an adult conversation. I don't think you know what a psychopath is. I am most certainly not one.



Feel free to go and educate yourself via google or any other search engine. There is a spectrum and you have scored very highly indeed.



And you most certainly have not sat down long enough with him to make the diagnosis required to form the conclusion that you have. In other words, you're talking out your anus.


Yet you are replaying like a sheep robot to anybody that goes against e1.
Alt? Family? Best bro? Or just stupid to see that moral issues have a line and acting yolo about it doesn't really help you at all.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2489 - 2014-03-26 11:31:02 UTC
dexington wrote:
I'm just saying he is a hypocrite.

But don't you see the potential that in acting in a similar manner, you can also be accused of similar hypocrisy?

Wouldn't it be best to stick to the forum rules and show all the respect deserved of all members of the community no matter who they are?

If the discussion is going to move forward at all, won't an air of respect from everyone lead to more productive discussion than the attack that this thread has been for the larger part of its existence?
Kyperion
#2490 - 2014-03-26 11:31:40 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I would have worked to set clear guidelines that the alleged scammer knows what's kosher and what's not.


The problem is that if you draw definitive lines in the sand, the boundary-pushers will keep sticking their toes over the line in an attempt to push the line further out of their way.

So no, don't expect any clear ideas of what is "kosher".


But we read about all of this well in advance. This "scandal" was public awhile ago on a widely followed blog, www.minerbumping.com which CCP reads. People are only angry now because Ripard (sp?) told them to be.


Yep. Called it earlier, this is a manufactured crisis. The only real question is why Ripard is doing this at this time.


Well he has had a 'Eve is full of bad people and thats bad' theme on his blog for a couple of weeks now. Not that I'm accusing anyone of having an agenda or concern trolling the entire community.


And I think its quite clear from any kind of browsing of the forums, that EVE is full of scumbags, and CCP may well eventually collapse under the weight of the disgusting level of depravity allowed in this game.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#2491 - 2014-03-26 11:31:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I agree that was a very good post. Meanwhile I get someone asking very broad questions wanting yes/no answers which I assure you will be damned if I do/damned if I don't. The funny thing is I already gave the very answers they seek, just a few pages back.

Post number please?
Incidentally, iv no grudge here, this is a game.Blink

post 2361

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Salvos Rhoska
#2492 - 2014-03-26 11:32:07 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
I certainly do hope many of my critics here take the time to read www.minerbumping.com because you will find thousands of examples of utter filth spewed by highsec miners.

I assure you, we are the good guys. Take a look.


Dat misdirection.

*Points at topic*

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2493 - 2014-03-26 11:32:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Kyperion wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Galdrak wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I certainly do hope many of my critics here take the time to read www.minerbumping.com because you will find thousands of examples of utter filth spewed by highsec miners.

I assure you, we are the good guys. Take a look.



good guys >.< . only in your head your a good guy. to me your just a scammer who went too far because you could. you pushed that dude so far he lost it totally and you step back and say he is the one to blame. i bet you are smiling as you read everything posted in this thread.


If you can't take responsibility for yourself and have a little self control over virtual assets in a ******* video game then yes, you are to blame. The ONLY one to blame, for handing those assets over consensually in the first place, and jumping on TS consensually to get them back.


Its fuckheads like you, who would blame a Woman for getting raped because she was 'too pretty'!


No, and I'm getting tired of this analogy because it demonstrates the user's lack of brain capacity. A ****, by definition, is non-consensual, and DOES NOT APPLY as an analogy to something where EXPLICIT (not implied, not implicit, EXPLICIT) consent is given. Stop frothing at the mouth and start using your ******* brains people. Or did they all come out dissolved in the froth already?

You can call me all the names you want, it won't matter to me at all and it won't change the facts. Do you know how many things creationists, antivaxxers and geocentrists call me on an almost daily basis? If it's ad homs you're after, you've got some catching up to do. All it does is demonstrate that you're emotional. Emotion creates bias, bias kills rational discourse.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2494 - 2014-03-26 11:32:37 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
As a joke, I have taken these internet tests with some guys at bu/mb/etc and I score rather low.


Actually if you score really low it can be a indicator of being very high on the spectrum. The whole thing about real psychopaths is they cannot be accurately tested as they see through the tests and calculate the appropriate answers to give in each situation. Making them score very low indeed when really they are topping the charts. Some tests scoring really low actually requires further testing 1 on 1 with a professional. its a very complex condition.

There was a very interesting documentary on this a while ago which I did indeed watch.

Dont just [u]think[/u] outside the box, [u]Live[/u] outside of it...
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2495 - 2014-03-26 11:32:48 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Bjurn Akely wrote:
Frankly I doubt you care.


Nobody cares. This is a vendetta against Erotica 1. Hence why people are simply dismissing his threats of violence and racism of Sokhar as if they were 'justified'. They're not. But no one is hanging him by the neck with anywhere near the same passion that they're going after Ero. This is a witchhunt, straight outta the 16th Century, run by the 'morality police' like a religious inquisition.

Its more a vendetta against what they did to the guy and his wife. Its a message to both CCP and Erotica and like minded people that the majority of people find this sort of thing unacceptable. Its a necessary message.

While I would love to see people banned I don't think personally that a ban should be implemented simply because this behavior has been if not condoned, accepted by CCP and I think even if you're as low brow and despicable as this person likes to portray themselves as, fair warning should be given before a ban.

I think its time for CCP to simply say "use your brains, if you step over the line too far you'll be in trouble". It doesn't take genius to figure out what should be acceptable and what shouldn't be.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#2496 - 2014-03-26 11:32:56 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I agree that was a very good post. Meanwhile I get someone asking very broad questions wanting yes/no answers which I assure you will be damned if I do/damned if I don't. The funny thing is I already gave the very answers they seek, just a few pages back.

Post number please?
Incidentally, iv no grudge here, this is a game.Blink


Oh God, ask me in a 3 page thread, not 125 lol


Dont know how to check your recent posts?

Troll for hire. Cheap prices.

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2497 - 2014-03-26 11:33:17 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Its fuckheads like you, who would blame a Woman for getting raped because she was 'too pretty'!


This argument again? It's been covered multiple times already.

Can't we move beyond this? No woman or man who is raped is ever to blame for that situation. No one in this thread has suggested otherwise.
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#2498 - 2014-03-26 11:34:22 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I certainly do hope many of my critics here take the time to read www.minerbumping.com because you will find thousands of examples of utter filth spewed by highsec miners.

I assure you, we are the good guys. Take a look.


Dat misdirection.

*Points at topic*


Hey look there and there oh and there too just not at me lulz
Salvos Rhoska
#2499 - 2014-03-26 11:34:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Erotica 1 wrote:
A livestreamed event cannot be edited before viewing and would be unscripted. Please remove the tinfoil.

Livestream can restrict and censure income communication.

This forum does all of this better, and is open to all. 120 pages of content already inform the discussion.
If you refuse to discuss the matter here, that is your prerogative, but it reflects badly on you not to do so.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Bjurn Akely
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2500 - 2014-03-26 11:34:39 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
This toxic thread sure gives me pause when considering my future in this game. This community as some nice players, but also the greatest concentration of venomous hateful people I have ever seen-all condoned (if not actively supported) by CCP. For now I forbid my daughter (an eve player-but only with supervision) from viewing these forums any further.


To be fair the people you mention are easily avoided inside the game. Most of the people you speak of are also forum alts. People who can not, or will not stand up for their actions, comments and behavior. Some might be forum alts out of necessity, sure. But I think you understand what I'm talking about.

Also, if your daughter is old enough to play the game this is the time to educate her on what being a good human being is about.