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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2201 - 2014-03-26 07:29:54 UTC
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
MSorry but eve is a game and behaviour like that is absolutely unacceptable in real life. Why should it be acceptable in a game, then?

You've literally never watched TV.

Oh god.
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#2202 - 2014-03-26 07:30:53 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
arabella blood wrote:
If there was such a clear line, edge cases would not exist. Its a problem, a IRL problem as well - thats why we have judges and not only "sentence delivereres".
It is not a simple thing at all. And there are many doctorines, and many ideas revolving the issue.

Defense: He could have switched off his computer at any point.
Judge: Case dismissed.


Clearly you should visit court rooms that are not on TV :)

Lets try that tactic again.

Defense: she could have said no the entire time and leave.
Judge: Case dismissed.

Troll for hire. Cheap prices.

Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
#2203 - 2014-03-26 07:31:18 UTC
To me, the real disgrace of all of this wasn't the wanton disregard for standards of behavior or our constructs of morality coming forth from Erotica1.

But the absolutely idiotic recitation someone was willing to give, in front of his wife... and the subsequent shitshow which followed it.

Don't ever postulate yourself on TS3 for someone like that (it's sad that I feel the need to say this).

Are people actually this incompetent? Mentally deranged? This made me ill.

He was doing all of this in front of his 'family' ... don't ever do what he did. I can't feel as sorry for him as I could have because he showed a ridiculous disregard for his own dignity. Do you think his wife is happy to be living with him? They'll be to some extent, living with it their entire lives. Because he wanted his "gold" back, that is just simply degeneracy. He knew what was going on from the 45 minute mark, he said as much.

It was so bad that it made me question what it meant to be human.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2204 - 2014-03-26 07:32:00 UTC
You just said the same thing I did. Were you trying to imply the same argument can be used in another context?

Oh god.
Mikey Aivo
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#2205 - 2014-03-26 07:32:05 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
MSorry but eve is a game and behaviour like that is absolutely unacceptable in real life. Why should it be acceptable in a game, then?

You've literally never watched TV.

sesame street made me sing with them.. basterds never gave me any isk. i was scammed by big bird
Cha'ka Khan
Dark Skies Dojo
#2206 - 2014-03-26 07:33:37 UTC
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
My 5 cents.
That´s going too far. Psychical harassing is not funny.
You never know who the player you harass is. It may be a 14 year old who can get depressions because of that or someone with a real intellectual disability (e.g. trysomy 21) and harass such people is completely asocial.
Laughing about the victims is this case is really no mature behaviour. You can never know who the real human being in eve may be and what for handicaps he may have in real live.
What happens if they harass a 16 year old with borderline syndrome that way and he commits suicide?
In my opionion erotica and friends deserve some holidays in a russian gulag.
Sorry but eve is a game and behaviour like that is absolutely unacceptable in real life. Why should it be acceptable in a game, then?



ONLINE INTERACTIONS NOT RATED BY THE ESRB.

This disclaimer right here.... means that your monkey ass needs to be aware that there are asshols and douchebags ONLINE.

Stop bringing this same old argument up. parents shouldnt let their kids play violent and unrated games if they are ujnderage and have mental issues.

The only thing we have to fear, is new pilots and AFK miners. 
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2207 - 2014-03-26 07:34:10 UTC
Lots of people in this thread would be defending the rapist and blaming the woman that dressed sexy and was having a little fun at the bar.

Sad.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2208 - 2014-03-26 07:36:22 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Sentamon wrote:
Lots of people in this thread would be defending the rapist and blaming the woman that dressed sexy and was having a little fun at the bar.

Sad.

Yes, making someone sing on comms and making fun of them is literally the same thing as being a rapist. Good contribution.

Get some perspective.
Foxstar Damaskeenus
why did i join this corp
Not Purple Shoot It.
#2209 - 2014-03-26 07:36:54 UTC
Cha'ka Khan wrote:
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
My 5 cents.
That´s going too far. Psychical harassing is not funny.
You never know who the player you harass is. It may be a 14 year old who can get depressions because of that or someone with a real intellectual disability (e.g. trysomy 21) and harass such people is completely asocial.
Laughing about the victims is this case is really no mature behaviour. You can never know who the real human being in eve may be and what for handicaps he may have in real live.
What happens if they harass a 16 year old with borderline syndrome that way and he commits suicide?
In my opionion erotica and friends deserve some holidays in a russian gulag.
Sorry but eve is a game and behaviour like that is absolutely unacceptable in real life. Why should it be acceptable in a game, then?



ONLINE INTERACTIONS NOT RATED BY THE ESRB.

This disclaimer right here.... means that your monkey ass needs to be aware that there are asshols and douchebags ONLINE.

Stop bringing this same old argument up. parents shouldnt let their kids play violent and unrated games if they are ujnderage and have mental issues.



Wrong, adults shouldn't provoke and badger children or the mentally handicapped.

Also what was the purpose of calling him a monkey ass? he didn't do anything to you.

"[this thread] is a cesspit of trolling and flaming" ISD Buldath
Prince Kobol
#2210 - 2014-03-26 07:37:33 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Lots of people in this thread would be defending the rapist and blaming the woman that dressed sexy and was having a little fun at the bar.

Sad.



This is why people with the mindset of E1 are attracted to Eve, apparently having the main goal of humiliating a person and then posting their humiliation on the internet for all to see and hear is perfectly acceptable.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2211 - 2014-03-26 07:38:38 UTC
Hasn't it always been that way?

Oh god.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2212 - 2014-03-26 07:38:44 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
Lots of people in this thread would be defending the rapist and blaming the woman that dressed sexy and was having a little fun at the bar.

Sad.

Yes, making someone sing on comms and making fun of them is literally the same thing as being a rapist. Good contribution.

Get some perspective.


You've got it backwards, read again.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#2213 - 2014-03-26 07:38:49 UTC  |  Edited by: ImYourMom
We have to also understand that this isnt just Erotica1, lots of people are doing this. Goonswarm are the worse for it, yet nothing was done or said about it, why?

ccp also have to take some blame for this as they openly promote this type of behaviour through gameplay
Cha'ka Khan
Dark Skies Dojo
#2214 - 2014-03-26 07:39:04 UTC
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
Cha'ka Khan wrote:
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
My 5 cents.
That´s going too far. Psychical harassing is not funny.
You never know who the player you harass is. It may be a 14 year old who can get depressions because of that or someone with a real intellectual disability (e.g. trysomy 21) and harass such people is completely asocial.
Laughing about the victims is this case is really no mature behaviour. You can never know who the real human being in eve may be and what for handicaps he may have in real live.
What happens if they harass a 16 year old with borderline syndrome that way and he commits suicide?
In my opionion erotica and friends deserve some holidays in a russian gulag.
Sorry but eve is a game and behaviour like that is absolutely unacceptable in real life. Why should it be acceptable in a game, then?



ONLINE INTERACTIONS NOT RATED BY THE ESRB.

This disclaimer right here.... means that your monkey ass needs to be aware that there are asshols and douchebags ONLINE.

Stop bringing this same old argument up. parents shouldnt let their kids play violent and unrated games if they are ujnderage and have mental issues.



Wrong, adults shouldn't provoke and badger children or the mentally handicapped.

Also what was the purpose of calling him a monkey ass? he didn't do anything to you.



generic blanket term.... not calling anyone anything. my monkey ass needs to know information about something before i buy it.

The only thing we have to fear, is new pilots and AFK miners. 
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#2215 - 2014-03-26 07:39:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaivar Lancer
Sentamon wrote:
Lots of people in this thread would be defending the rapist and blaming the woman that dressed sexy and was having a little fun at the bar.

Sad.


Well, we've lost the plot. Comparing singing over Teamspeak with r@pe and torture.

Well done care bears, for trivializing actual crimes.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2216 - 2014-03-26 07:39:33 UTC
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
Sorry but eve is a game and behaviour like that is absolutely unacceptable in real life. Why should it be acceptable in a game, then?


Eve is also a product and one of the ways CCP sells eve, is be allowing people to be assholes. As long as you don't break the EULA/TOS, or do it intentionally, there is nothing illegal in pushing someone to the point of suicide. If someone forgets to take his medicine and ends up in the bonus room, it is partly his own fault if it results in him eating a bullet, after being scammed for all his assets and publicly humiliated on the internet.

The bonus room is nothing new, CCP knows this is going on, and it don't seem like they are going to stop it. This is what we sign up for, and if you don't like it you can just **** off.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2217 - 2014-03-26 07:39:33 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Lots of people in this thread would be defending the rapist and blaming the woman that dressed sexy and was having a little fun at the bar.

Sad.

I think we went through this argument about 80 pages ago. Then 50 pages ago and about 30 pages ago was the last time.

**** in real life isn't a trivial issue in any discussion. I'm not trying to minimise the seriousness with which this discussion is being treated, but it doesn't compare to **** and no **** victim should ever be alleged to have had it coming (or similar).
Prince Kobol
#2218 - 2014-03-26 07:40:14 UTC
Cha'ka Khan wrote:
Colt Blackhawk wrote:
My 5 cents.
That´s going too far. Psychical harassing is not funny.
You never know who the player you harass is. It may be a 14 year old who can get depressions because of that or someone with a real intellectual disability (e.g. trysomy 21) and harass such people is completely asocial.
Laughing about the victims is this case is really no mature behaviour. You can never know who the real human being in eve may be and what for handicaps he may have in real live.
What happens if they harass a 16 year old with borderline syndrome that way and he commits suicide?
In my opionion erotica and friends deserve some holidays in a russian gulag.
Sorry but eve is a game and behaviour like that is absolutely unacceptable in real life. Why should it be acceptable in a game, then?



ONLINE INTERACTIONS NOT RATED BY THE ESRB.

This disclaimer right here.... means that your monkey ass needs to be aware that there are asshols and douchebags ONLINE.

Stop bringing this same old argument up. parents shouldnt let their kids play violent and unrated games if they are ujnderage and have mental issues.



You do realise that online games are rated, hence why Eve has a rating of 12 PEGI.

Another person who thinks the US is the only country in world...
Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
#2219 - 2014-03-26 07:40:43 UTC
Here in Germany there have been several cases of people that have been harrassed electronically, dubbed "cybermobbing" by the media. Most of them are teens at school AFAIK, but the principle is the same. The modus operandi has always been the same: get some hold over the victim, usually an embarrassing photo or text that the victim sent over willingly. Then use that hold to blackmail the victim into doing what you want.

In my eyes there is very little difference between getting hold of a bunch of pixels in the form of a picture or in the form of assets in a game. They are something the victim cares about, and the victim is being blackmailed to perform actions that he does not want to do.

Here in Germany the victim could probably sue for a variety of things and would be taken VERY seriously. And yes, the police WOULD get involved (http://www.polizei-beratung.de/presse/609-cybermobbing-ist-kein-kinderspiel.html, text in german).

If CCP condones this kind of behaviour I do not want to be a part of this community.
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2220 - 2014-03-26 07:41:21 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Sentamon wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
Lots of people in this thread would be defending the rapist and blaming the woman that dressed sexy and was having a little fun at the bar.

Sad.

Yes, making someone sing on comms and making fun of them is literally the same thing as being a rapist. Good contribution.

Get some perspective.


You've got it backwards, read again.

So you're saying Erotica 1 (the one accused in this thread) was the woman that got raped? Well now I fully admit that this analogy is confusing me. vOv