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Foxstar Damaskeenus
why did i join this corp
Not Purple Shoot It.
#2161 - 2014-03-26 06:48:58 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Look guys, I was going to do a "bonus round to end all bonus rounds" tonight and invite all of my forum critics in. Even if I have to pay out 5 trillion isk and never do another bonus round again, it would be totally worth it. Clearly anyone who has followed this knows how to win by now, so you can all see first hand that everything is completely legitimate if you make it to the end.

But I am sleepy now as I have been trying to get to the end of this neverending thread all day. Maybe tomorrow!


How about instead of that you publicly apologize to the person who's audio you uploaded in a disgusting attempt to do more damage to them and humiliate them further.

How about you realize what you have done and check yourself in to a mental hospital.

And, **** off to another game.

"[this thread] is a cesspit of trolling and flaming" ISD Buldath

Mikey Aivo
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#2162 - 2014-03-26 06:50:53 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Look guys, I was going to do a "bonus round to end all bonus rounds" tonight and invite all of my forum critics in. Even if I have to pay out 5 trillion isk and never do another bonus round again, it would be totally worth it. Clearly anyone who has followed this knows how to win by now, so you can all see first hand that everything is completely legitimate if you make it to the end.

But I am sleepy now as I have been trying to get to the end of this neverending thread all day. Maybe tomorrow!


ill sing and dance and send u pictures all day for isk... but so help me god ill have a space lawyer there with me
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2163 - 2014-03-26 06:51:42 UTC
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Look guys, I was going to do a "bonus round to end all bonus rounds" tonight and invite all of my forum critics in. Even if I have to pay out 5 trillion isk and never do another bonus round again, it would be totally worth it. Clearly anyone who has followed this knows how to win by now, so you can all see first hand that everything is completely legitimate if you make it to the end.

But I am sleepy now as I have been trying to get to the end of this neverending thread all day. Maybe tomorrow!


How about instead of that you publicly apologize to the person who's audio you uploaded in a disgusting attempt to do more damage to them and humiliate them further.

How about you realize what you have done and check yourself in to a mental hospital.

And, **** off to another game.


Yes yes, Let the hatred consume you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2164 - 2014-03-26 06:51:43 UTC
It's only a video game, no one needs to do any apologising or mental health hospital checking.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2165 - 2014-03-26 06:52:29 UTC
Mikey Aivo wrote:
ill sing and dance and send u pictures all day for isk... but so help me god ill have a space lawyer there with me

I've never seen Mittani in the Bonus Room.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#2166 - 2014-03-26 06:54:13 UTC
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
How about instead of that you publicly apologize to the person who's audio you uploaded in a disgusting attempt to do more damage to them and humiliate them further.
As it happens I'm listening to the recording right now and he just said he's aware it's being recorded and will be posted publically and doesn't care.

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Endovior
PFU Consortium
#2167 - 2014-03-26 06:55:53 UTC
arabella blood wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
The question is: should being an ass hole be a bannable offense?


For certain degrees of ******* that incorporate sociopathic public mocking rituals, yes.

Is it "fun" to get your friend blind drunk and then handcuff him to a light post in the middle of the CBD just in time for peak hour?

Ok, so where do we draw the line? The "bonus room" is unacceptable? Ok.

What about burn Jita? Many tens of thousands of people think Goons are ass holes for burn Jita. Should we start banning Goons? What about the "code" people that harass miners. They're plenty dickish and make people rage as hard as anyone else. Ban for them too?

I was once on a fleet, a birthday fleet for a friend. We were in lowsec, we tackled a venture. Told the pilot he could either sing happy birthday on comms to the birthday dude, or get his ship popped. He sung the song in comms, we let him go. Should we be banned too?
Do we convene a plebiscite on the forums every time someone acts like a total douche?

Eve may well be a better place if Erotica 1 is banned in general, but I do not believe Eve would be a better place if Erotica 1 was banned just for being king of the douches. That's just not a good enough reason (imo).


Imo theres no need for any line. It is CCP policy to examin the cases one by one and deciding. Setting up a rule here is totally not needed, from both sides of the argument.


That's a valid argument.

It's also a valid argument to suggest that someone... in particular someone who's been scrupulously careful to stay within the rules and inquire with a GM wherever anything is dubious or questionable... should, if punished at all for violating some new proposed rule, be warned first, and punished if found to remain in violation. This has happened before; you'll note that E1 and friends are very careful to stay within the letter of the law, and will be quick to adjust their actions, if officially asked.
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2168 - 2014-03-26 06:56:19 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
How about instead of that you publicly apologize to the person who's audio you uploaded in a disgusting attempt to do more damage to them and humiliate them further.
As it happens I'm listening to the recording right now and he just said he's aware it's being recorded and will be posted publically and doesn't care.


Sir if you are indeed listening to the audio be aware there are racist, vulgar and many demeaning phrases from a player named Sohkar. Viewer Discretion is advised.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Foxstar Damaskeenus
why did i join this corp
Not Purple Shoot It.
#2169 - 2014-03-26 06:58:01 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
It's only a video game, no one needs to do any apologising or mental health hospital checking.


Let me tell you something. If you had listened to that audio where the player and his family had lost their minds and began yelling/death threats maybe you would possibly have a different perspective.

It isn't funny, it should have been immediately stopped. Instead it was continued for that sick, disgusting, mother ******'s amusement.

And then it was brought to these forums where we were exposed and outraged by it, without our consent.

If you think it's ok to provoke people to that point than you really need to examine your own values.

"[this thread] is a cesspit of trolling and flaming" ISD Buldath

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#2170 - 2014-03-26 06:58:21 UTC
arabella blood wrote:

Imo theres no need for any line. It is CCP policy to examin the cases one by one and deciding. Setting up a rule here is totally not needed, from both sides of the argument.

CCP would never have noticed this particular incident if a few people didn't make a fuss on the forums.

So what you're saying is: each time someone yells real loud on the forums, the target should be "audited" for a ban? Boy, it sure would suck to be a high-profile figure with a lot of enemies on the eve of election day. Not that that's happening here of course. Roll
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#2171 - 2014-03-26 06:59:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Crumplecorn
Navi Annages wrote:
Sir if you are indeed listening to the audio be aware there are racist, vulgar and many demeaning phrases from a player named Sohkar. Viewer Discretion is advised.
Yes, I got to that part already. It was all fun and games until someone started coming out with the most thorough anti-black language I've heard outside period piece TV shows.

On the upside he did just apologise for the earlier death threats, which is something. I can't wait to hear what the last minute and thirteen seconds have in store.


Edit: Actually in that last minute he went from willing to sing two songs to quitting because he didn't want to sing about 'gay stuff' (the song's name was Queer). Well, they say EVE attracts the worst people, I guess it's true.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2172 - 2014-03-26 06:59:11 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
How about instead of that you publicly apologize to the person who's audio you uploaded in a disgusting attempt to do more damage to them and humiliate them further.
As it happens I'm listening to the recording right now and he just said he's aware it's being recorded and will be posted publically and doesn't care.


WHAT?!?!?!?

Does the opposition know this? Because this is like....43% of their case you've just blown open by ACTUALLY LISTENING TO THE RECORDING INSTEAD OF JUST READING WHAT RIPARD WROTE.


Sorry, my caps lock did this weird thing there...

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#2173 - 2014-03-26 07:00:19 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
What about burn Jita? Many tens of thousands of people think Goons are ass holes for burn Jita. Should we start banning Goons?


Does "Burn Jita" involve humiliating people outside the game? No it doesn't. Burn Jita is an in-game event involving people blowing up spaceships and calling each other names within the context of the game environment. That's perfectly acceptable.

PotatoOverdose wrote:
What about the "code" people that harass miners. They're plenty dickish and make people rage as hard as anyone else. Ban for them too?


They gank people, blow up spaceships, act like sadistic religious zealots in-game, and post about their accomplishments on their web site. They're not taking people to their own TS server to publicly humiliate them away from the domain of the EULA and TOS. Miner bumping is perfectly legitimate. I don't buy their politics and religion, and I don't like bumping as a mechanic in general, but they're actually playing the game even if they are being jerks about it. They're a bunch of jerks, but they're keeping their jerk attitude strictly in game for the most part.

I have yet to hear about Miner Bumping requesting people send in humiliating photos. The worst of their transgressions is worshipping Erotica 1 like a god: they celebrate the bonus room in question through the "Jetliner Bumping" series of posts. [voiceover=Derryn Hinch]Shame, New Order, shame![/voiceover]

PotatoOverdose wrote:
I was once on a fleet, a birthday fleet for a friend. We were in lowsec, we tackled a venture. Told the pilot he could either sing happy birthday on comms to the birthday dude, or get his ship popped. He sung the song in comms, we let him go. Should we be banned too?


Did you get them to read Wikipedia entries out loud to mock pronunciation errors, write essays about how wonderful you are, post photos of themselves naked with "Erotica 1 for CSM" signs, and ridicule them while they were doing all this? Did you change the rules about the ransom while you had them on TS?

+1 for honouring the ransom, BTW.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2174 - 2014-03-26 07:00:59 UTC
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
It's only a video game, no one needs to do any apologising or mental health hospital checking.


Let me tell you something. If you had listened to that audio where the player and his family had lost their minds and began yelling/death threats maybe you would possibly have a different perspective.

It isn't funny, it should have been immediately stopped. Instead it was continued for that sick, disgusting, mother ******'s amusement.

And then it was brought to these forums where we were exposed and outraged by it, without our consent.

If you think it's ok to provoke people to that point than you really need to examine your own values.


I don't think it's funny. What you describe is disgusting and immature and they deserved to be taught a lesson.
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2175 - 2014-03-26 07:01:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Navi Annages
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
It's only a video game, no one needs to do any apologising or mental health hospital checking.


Let me tell you something. If you had listened to that audio where the player and his family had lost their minds and began yelling/death threats maybe you would possibly have a different perspective.

It isn't funny, it should have been immediately stopped. Instead it was continued for that sick, disgusting, mother ******'s amusement.

And then it was brought to these forums where we were exposed and outraged by it, without our consent.

If you think it's ok to provoke people to that point than you really need to examine your own values.


But the player named Sohkar consented to the game, the scam and being recorded within ts3 outside the jurisdiction of any authority.

So are you ready for this.

Get ready.

Nothing will happen. You hear that. Nothing. This has been a golden day for eve.

P.S. Erotica 1 for CSM!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU

Foxstar Damaskeenus
why did i join this corp
Not Purple Shoot It.
#2176 - 2014-03-26 07:01:17 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Look guys, I was going to do a "bonus round to end all bonus rounds" tonight and invite all of my forum critics in. Even if I have to pay out 5 trillion isk and never do another bonus round again, it would be totally worth it. Clearly anyone who has followed this knows how to win by now, so you can all see first hand that everything is completely legitimate if you make it to the end.

But I am sleepy now as I have been trying to get to the end of this neverending thread all day. Maybe tomorrow!


How about instead of that you publicly apologize to the person who's audio you uploaded in a disgusting attempt to do more damage to them and humiliate them further.

How about you realize what you have done and check yourself in to a mental hospital.

And, **** off to another game.


Yes yes, Let the hatred consume you.


Here we go with more provocation and trolling people. I was under the impression that this was against the forum rules.

"[this thread] is a cesspit of trolling and flaming" ISD Buldath

Cha'ka Khan
Dark Skies Dojo
#2177 - 2014-03-26 07:01:40 UTC
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
It's only a video game, no one needs to do any apologising or mental health hospital checking.


Let me tell you something. If you had listened to that audio where the player and his family had lost their minds and began yelling/death threats maybe you would possibly have a different perspective.

It isn't funny, it should have been immediately stopped. Instead it was continued for that sick, disgusting, mother ******'s amusement.

And then it was brought to these forums where we were exposed and outraged by it, without our consent.

If you think it's ok to provoke people to that point than you really need to examine your own values.



he chose to continue to participate..... out of his own greed and desire for virtual content that ultimately is worthless he decided that it was better to become violent. E1s "Bonus Room" is honestly nothing more than a giant social experiment. Pass or Fail... How steady will your greed keep you?

Greed causes people to snap,. not E1 and his band of merry men.

The only thing we have to fear, is new pilots and AFK miners. 

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2178 - 2014-03-26 07:02:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Mara Rinn wrote:


Does "Burn Jita" involve humiliating people outside the game? No it doesn't. Burn Jita is an in-game event involving people blowing up spaceships and calling each other names within the context of the game environment. That's perfectly acceptable.




Yep, it does. Killboards, and all that. Including rewards for various achievements during the event.

Hell, I just realized that you're functionally arguing that sharing killmails is griefing.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2179 - 2014-03-26 07:02:43 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
How about instead of that you publicly apologize to the person who's audio you uploaded in a disgusting attempt to do more damage to them and humiliate them further.
As it happens I'm listening to the recording right now and he just said he's aware it's being recorded and will be posted publically and doesn't care.

Even if he did care, there's nothing he can do about it. That recording is not his intellectual property.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2180 - 2014-03-26 07:03:28 UTC
Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:
Navi Annages wrote:


Yes yes, Let the hatred consume you.


Here we go with more provocation and trolling people. I was under the impression that this was against the forum rules.


Sure, and so is telling people to "**** off to another game" and check themselves into a mental hospital, but you knew that.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?