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Just a small idea to this.

Cause this is based on killrights so as some people know someone will want to add bounties to people with no killrights on them so how about if you could buy killright and add you bounty to it from concord.

Buying more killrights against the same player would be more costly like 2 times more every time. And yes this should be insane expensive to players like 500mil / killright (for the first one) plus bounty. This would be for those that you realy realy hate someone and want them to suffer for their deeds.

Just an idea.

The high and increased cost would limit griefing and so on.

But I still like the base idea anyways XD

I agree. Don't make it more complex than it has to be. Just make killrights transferable via contracts that don't payout more than the cost of the kill.

I (and some others) have mentioned how a hull-cost based payout could work really well. I wrote an autistically long post about this a couple years ago The TLDR (because it really is too long) is that low-sec is actually a failed ecosystem, and on it's own increasing rewards will never work without introducing another predator species. And the way to do that is to include this kind of a bounty system.

It's been a while since I've thought about this, and I doubt I agree with everything I wrote in that post. I know one issue I've thought of since then is that (with this system) there is very little impetus to add a bounty to someone if they already have one that is substantially high enough. But I don't know if there is a way around that, or if it's even a problem.

There's also a part of me that wonders if the bounties couldn't be placed on the corporation as a whole, instead of just on the pilots.

Edit: Re-reading my original post I just noticed that it got necroed 3 months after I originally posted it and continued on without me knowing. That's kind of neat.

Pretty much the whole proposal - and the following thread - is about trying to make your doing this as difficult as possible, and me defending the consequent complexity on this basis.

I don't think there's any way to make it completely impossible to do that, but I have tried to make it so that you'll need to put in some real effort to do so. You'd need to join (or get an alt into) the bounty corp that gets the contract, or else get +ve standings to the guy issuing the contract. That means that you or your alt would need some kind of working relationship with other players (either exactly the right bounty corp or you managed to infiltrate the guys you ganked) to achieve the result you're after. If you've been foresighted or socially skilled enough to achieve this then I think that you will have earned your right to spend your some of your time and ISK "scraping off" the bounty placed upon you.

If I recall correctly, every single CSM has asked CCP to rework the bounty system.

CCP's answer, when they troubled to give one, has been that the tangled and undocumented state of Crimewatch (EVE's standings and aggression management system) basically made it an impossible job. Per this year's fanfest presentation, CCP are finally reworking Crimewatch, which gives us an opportunity to get some kind of bounty hunting system introduced that isn't merely a cruel joke on the new and ignorant player.

So you're OK with me spending 50 mill ISK to negate a 500 mill bounty? I personally would be pretty reluctant to place a bounty on anyone on those terms.

Your insulting post does *exactly* what he says. If you think that *simple* idea will actually encourage bounty hunting, you're delusional.

Malcanis' idea works within the existing structure of bounties and killrights to craft a reasonable "bounty" system in Eve. Why don't you inject "Reading and Comprehension"...


let alone train it.....

Just so we're clear: I deeply believe consequences for player actions should always and primarily come from other players. The point of a bounty system in my worldview isn't to STOP CRIME!!! but to promote gameplay. 3rd party punitive mechanics like taking ship insurance are regressive, short0sighted and wrong headed. It's not for CCP to say that this or that player lifestyle is "wrong" and should be "punished", it should purely be the perogative of players to do so; it is CCPs place merely to give them effective and balanced tools to do so.

I don't immediately see why the hunted party should be able to know either of those things. I'd be interested to hear the case for them to if you have one.