Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hi,

It would be pretty cool if freighters were fittable. Thanks to EVE HQ ive been able to test the "myth" that freighters will become worse off with fitting slots.

There are many ways to approach it, but i think the most important slots for a hauler are low slots and rig slots.

I added two low slots so you have at least a little options, as well as 3 rig slots with 400 calibration. I only wanted to give it low cpu and low powergrid because in theory a freighter is a frigate with a very large cargo hold. Also its easier to balance. Primarily velocity, structure and resist mods, as well as expanded carhohold mods will fit. No armor plates or even capital modules etc.

Anyway the stock freighter has a large carhohold by default so one of the first things to do is reduce that in order to not make expanded cargoholds and cargohold optimisation rigs overpowered. Next is buffing the stock HP, because when fitting expanded carholds etc, they will reduce the HP. Basicially i aimed for a freighter with 2 expanded carhold II and 3 Cargohold optimisation rig I's to end up at about 182k EHP and 900k M3 with all skills 5. Very similar to the current stock freighter.

Players will basicially be forced to fit these mods if they want to a freighter that behaves similarly to the current one. However, they get the oppertunity to fit tank mods instead, or whatever tickles their fancy for a different build. With some of the best implants, as well as all skills V, the freighter would end up at about 750k EHP when fitted for tank. This is not even close to what most properly fitted dreadnoughts or carriers have. However its a significant boost from the current freighter which boasts about 180k EHP with decent implants and all skills V.

The cost of fitting the freighter for tank is a significantly reduced carhold. The 750k EHP freighter was only able to carry about 350k m3 cargo, and traveled a little slower than the stock one.

Basically a fittable freighter done this manner can be considered a buff, except pilots will have to fork out a little cash to get the modules that will allow them to obtain the previously standard stats. Its possible to increase the cargohold capacity a little more if using Tech II cargo expanding rigs, however they are expensive, and the total cargo amount will not exceed 1 million m3. On the Fenrir, which admittedly is the only ship i tested/played around with, i was able to obtain a maximum of 985k m3 with two tech II and one Tech I cargohold optimisation rig+expanded cargohold II's.

So basically my idea is to give freighters fitting options, since it looks like it can be done without making them overpowered. It would be interesting to see the freight space transform with these new beasts...

It would be pretty cool if muppets didn't post this same tired thread every other day.

I think the game would be better off without freighters. It's the rapid transport of large volumes of materials that causes the Jita problem.

I dont understand what the Jita problem is. Could you explain? I never used Jita

I don't understand the Jita problem either. I don't haul or mine but +1 for wanting a couple slots to fit your Billion isk ship and protect whatever items you are hauling.

ok i laughed so +1

The more options we have for ruining a goon's day, the better. I would recommend having similar slot fitting to current industrials; I can see things like the Ark and Charon being tanked out fairly well. I would like to see JF's cargo hold bumped up a bit, too, although just having the option for expanding the cargo holds would be quite nice.

With enemies like you, Goons won't need friends.

True and they still cant safely carry around all your incursion supplies. True, and nobody intelligent expects them to fit weapons either. True, and they also cost more then the vast majority of ships and high sec as well.

Could you please explain why you think freighters with more EHP is a bad thing? You are aware pilots will have to compromise i order to reach it? ~350k m3 and 700k EHP or ~900k m3 and 180k EHP etc.