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wow. well, maybe ccp sold us out as a test crowd for some psychology & behaviour studies?
this kinda demands a total rework of 0.0 PVE content in the next expansion, at the latest.

or at least let us drop these in high sec mission hubs (as earlier suggested) and everyone who tries to steal the honey pot for him- or herself gets a suspect timer .

I guess I have a really dumb question for Team Super Friends --

Can you please explain how this batch of deployable stuff fits in to the vision of being able to expand exploration by moving into new space areas and the building of new stargates?

Ha! Why does the player base need nullsec for if the plan is to continually nerf it? I would think the leet pvp'ers would want more ratting and mining targets in a system and not less to pad their gank boards. And you think to do that the right way is to penalize nullsec residents more?? That's as useful as a poop flavored candy.

Obviously there is a huge disconnect here. The leet pvp'ers claim nobody wants to fight, yet the game mechanics are set up so that ratting and PVP fits are mutually exclusive. Ratting, like it or not, is required to fund pvp activities since the 0.01 isk game isn't terribly fun to play in empire constantly.

CCP could try something radical like, oh I dunno, making it possible to pvp with a ratting fit. Then there isn't any need to change fits at station or elsewhere, losing precious response time. Oh, no but they can't because that's how they set the game up.

Why not just make it a 50% bounty nerf with 150% bonus after 2 weeks of ratting? Because Jita can't hold that many people, that's why.

I'm fairly convinced that the gankers will ever only be happy when the null bears are continually warp scrambled by belt rats so they can be lined up firing squad style. They're pretty much like someone that would try and give you a toilet swirly from behind while you are urinating, only when you turn to punch them in the mouth they run as fast as they can.

EVE started getting out of hand when they let people pay for accounts with in game isk, encouraging (hell basically ensuring multiboxing and additional server lag) and they introduced hot dropping. Hot dropping basically removed any reason to fight because there was no way to see what you were up against. A fairly reasonable 1:1 fight could suddenly turn into a 4-6 on 1. Now that hotdropping can be done several jumps behind enemy lines, the problem has only gotten worse. Nobody is going to engage 1 on 6 no matter how badly you want them to in their PVE setup. Far easier to dock up somewhere and wait til the gankers get bored. Yes, yes, you really owned us this time ... oh wait, we still own the space ...

So which features have nullbears gotten to make it easier to hold their space? Bridging Titans? Covert Cynos? Stealth Bombers? Uncatchable interceptors? AFK cloakies isk-locking systems? And now small roving gangs want more handouts (ESS - fund my pvp while I try and gank nullbears)? There's a big whiny group in the game allright, but it's not the nullbears.

Keep it up CCP, I can choose to use my disposable income in other ways.

Speaking from the perspective of a brigand who is roaming sovereignty space, I can only say that the best fights I can remember were those where people actually stood up against us. I don‘t enjoy ganks very much, but as a roamer you learn to take what you can get. Better to kill a solo ratting Drake or Carrier than nothing at all. That‘s all. I don‘t want to gank, I wish there were more small-scale fights (say 4-6 vs 4-6, or double that size). And in this case I am perfectly fine with losing the engagement. As long as I got a good fight, no problem with that.

That doesn't tell anything about ESS at all. Just my two cents with regards to the perceived motivation of roamers vs the roamers perspective.

It's been a little bit since our last feedback from CCP. How goes the discussion about iterations and changes to these deployables? (granted, you might be tied up on other discussions given HED-GP).

CCP doesn't seem to care as no announcements to stop release of the module have been made, alliances are beginning to declare them KOS if deployed. Not really anything has changed.

I'd say in all likelihood they'll be implemented, alliances will ban their use for the most part and after the hostiles deploy one leave the system - BOOM. They'll lose 30M. Just another nullsec structure to grind really.

All in all, just a big waste of resources and time for everyone all the way around.

CCP's idea on discussion and feedback:

http://www.eveonline.com/rubicon/features/encounter-surveillance-system/

No CCP is nerfing the bounty. I don't recall alliances asking for this asinine structure, just less fleet lag.

I will shoot them because strategically there is nothing else to do with them. If one goes up and it remains unmolested it simply provides a target for enemies to warp to and encourages them to hang around my space and steal. And if I'm really lucky, maybe I'll get my ratting ship caught in the warp bubble while trying to collect my tags that I'll need to burn time lugging to empire, where maybe I'll get lucky twice and get podded along the way.

You really aren't thinking this through, are you? How about this - I'll trade you the ESS and go for it if small gang pvp gives up cloaking ships and hot drops. Hmmmmm, wonder what the odds of them doing that are?