EVE General Discussion

I suggested that a few times. The missions would be added anonymously to a pool so a player couldn't run his own missions, and the missions would have fail/succeed mechanics. A succesful mission would provide a NPC reward (ISK, LP) but also "agent points" to "buy" NPC agent effects (from "temporary subsidy" to "lock a station to corporation X for Z time").

Missions would be created with a limited budget of "agent points" as are the fleets assembled on the Open Tournamnet, and those points would be earned through succesful missions (either as a payout by running them, or for setting out them).

More involved players would use the agents the way collectible cards are used in games: putting them on stake by calling a "special" mission, with a greater reward (like accessing a higher ranked agent) but also a greater risk (fai, the ability to call a "assassination" mission on the agent being exposed).

The agent's wouldn't be pre-seeded, rather would be generated by the system, with the exception of a few top rank NPCs.

The whole system would emulate a network of corrupt political clientele, with players giving and taking favors through corrupt NPCs.

Of course, by being heavily based upon NPC agents, it would be a mostly hisec business, but with the potential to affect the whole game (how much would cost hiring the services of the player who controlled the docking master at Jita...?)

Yule lads will give us WiS on the 24th!

I can live in hope.

Just open the door, gives us an area to walk in and go to a bar... We'll d the rest!

People also regularly ask for AFK Cloaking to be nerffed. Adding new space to Eve is a terrible idea, a massive proportion of our current space is basically uninhabited. There is swathes of sov null, NPC null and low sec with no one for 10 jumps in any direction. What do we need new space for?

Since we're touching on this topic of CCP's New Vision, can anybody post a link to where they describe exactly what it is they're seeing? This New Vision that apparently everyone is on board with? I seemed to have missed that post.

What even is this comment? Is this supposed to mean something?



You mean the fanfest one where Hilmar asks the crowd whether they want WiS and the feed is drowned out by people cheering? And then he awkwardly says something about 'maybe next year'? You mean that video? That's a rhetorical question by the way.

That's why you use the quote function when replying.

Have you thought about this space having no local and not within jump range of current space? The force projection is one of the reasons why many systems are empty, as well as the poor rewards from those systems without IHUB's. I should know as I spend most of my time in 0.0 using that type of space. CCP could test a number of things with a new region if they want to, most notably removing local.

EDIT: I would suggest not being dismissive of other things developed within Eve, the new region is a great idea, will bring interest, improving sov warfare will improve the game if done right, the new POS system and new deployable structures will add to the game, and the added immersion of WiS will add to the game.

I think you personal biases are narrowing your perspective. For example the new mobile structures have changed the game for many of us, that they seem "weak" to you simply means you aren't geared for the kind of game play they enhance.

The mobile depot has single handedly eliminated the need for my ninja ratting carrier "floating base" and having to use 4 characters (two blops, outbound cyno, inbound cyno) for hostile space escalations. The mobile depot means I don't have to choose between a PVE fit and a PVP fit in a low or null system without a station (before rubicon I had sooooo many times when i passed someone while exploring and thought "man, if I had a point fit i'd have killed that guy"). It means defensive equipment (neuts, warp core stabs, target lock breakers, etc etc) actually get used instead "not gonna screw up my fit, I'll just use an alt scout".

I don't see how any of the above could be called "weak". Paradigm shifting, yea, but not weak. And that's just one module out of 4. Do you know how fun it is to anchor a pull bubble with decloaking cans near a mobile cyno jammer and watch stealth bomber after stealth bomber come to "investigate" only to get popped by your buddies cloaked sabre and your own rapier?

I do lol.




I understand that but I'm also sensing a double standard. You're advocating more WiS when the only concrete proof if it is one room no one can leave and an EVE prototype that got shelved.Most WiS ideas are as much fluff as any new vision thing is.

Again, I think you are letting your bias rule (in this case, against the "null blocs"). Somehow player built stargates are bad because only null blocs will use them (nothing stopping you from forming a "high sec bloc" you know), but content-less WiS "walking to a bar in a spacestation" (something that many won't use, same as how many don't even spend a second in captains quarters) is ok? How do you know there won't be "backdoors" into the new space that let non-bloc players access the new space.

You said it yourself, you don't have enough information about the new vision to make an informed opinion.

Those Swathes exist only in your imagination. The majority of systems in EVE have POS, local residents and there is usually an outpost within one or two jumps. NPC space is full of people, both big alliances, roaming gangs and nuetrals.

Its so far proven impossible to find even one system that doesn't have some form of activity on a daily basis, isn't 'claimed' or home to POS.

Obviously they're not all on at once, but given 500,000 subscriptions and 20,000 or so systems its very obvious EVE space is more like a city than it is a vast open galaxy.

There used to be small pockets of space that were many many jumps away but for some absurd reason CCP decided to add multiple regional links between all the different regions making back water low population areas extinct.

Not everyone wants to play counterstrike in space, shooting at anything and everything that moves. There are plenty of opportunities to pvp if you have the mental capacity to use your map and click pilots in space.

When there were only 5000 in EVE there were space battles, when there were 20,000 there were space battles, and so on and so on. Using the excuse you need targets everywhere to find pvp just makes you look like a lazy carebear.

Space is supposed to be vast not suburban.