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Rubicon Live event, Working as intended? (conspiracy)

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Danhiil Xadi
Tri-empire Trading
#1 - 2013-11-07 21:56:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Danhiil Xadi
So as many of you probably know today's live event was a complete shambles I mean it was a pretty poor showing from pretty much everyone involved. However after waking up back in the station I got thinking, what if it was designed to fail?

The whole point of Rubicon is that capsuleers are becoming dissatisfied with the empires and leaving their control, however many players are totally fine with the empires which is at odds with what the lore wants. What better way to dissatisfy their followers than to have them issue a massive CTA to loyalists then whelps spectacularly due to their **** poor execution. Lets review the events, people are told to stage in Saurm Prime ready to go half an hour before the off they're told through very round about means to go to Ihal. Even under ideal conditions that's a bit of a push also if the target was RMOC-W why assemble so far away? This seems pretty odd for a live event.

After a slog half way across the cluster the fleet dribbles into Ihal and before it gathers any real strengh is told to set course for RMOC through the Doril corridor a pretty well know camping site. Again a little odd but not a huge oversight.

The Amarrian commander running the fleet the decides to hold on the gate for quite a while knowing there was a large camp on the other side, he could be waiting for people to catch up but why do it here rather than back in HiSec? The net result is that the fleet is slowly weakened as people get impatient and jump into the camp. At this stage the communication pretty much stops and the fleet is just told go kill the thing.

Comapre this to the defence fleet that was told to assemble in Utopia and then had a nice leisurely stroll over to where they needed to be. The result is an almost certain pirate victory (good for the lore), a great sea of highsec tears and people thoroughly pissed at the empire FCs, which sounds to me very like the lore scenario for Rubicon.

TL;DR - It is my theory that the 'failure' of today's event may actually have been a great success in terms of the metaplot. I hope this is true and if so congratulate CCP on a nice bit of social engineering.

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Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
#2 - 2013-11-07 22:05:13 UTC
Danhiil Xadi wrote:
So as many of you probably know today's live event was a complete shambles I mean it was a pretty poor showing from pretty much everyone involved. However after waking up back in the station I got thinking, what if it was designed to fail?
The whole point of Rubicon is that capsuleers are becoming dissatisfied with the empires and leaving their control, however many players are totally fine with the empires which is at odds with what the lore wants. What better way to dissatisfy their followers than to have them issue a massive CTA to loyalists then whelps spectacularly due to their **** poor execution. Lets review the events, people are told to stage in Saurm Prime ready to go half an hour before the off they're told through very round about means to go to Ihal. Even under ideal conditions that's a bit of a push also if the target was RMOC-W why assemble so far away? This seems pretty odd for a live event.
After a slog half way across the cluster the fleet dribbles into Ihal and before it gathers any real strengh is told to set course for RMOC through the Doril corridor a pretty well know camping site. Again a little odd but not a huge oversight.
The Amarrian commander running the fleet the decides to hold on the gate for quite a while knowing there was a large camp on the other side, he could be waiting for people to catch up but why do it here rather than back in HiSec? The net result is that the fleet is slowly weakened as people get impatient and jump into the camp. At this stage the communication pretty much stops and the fleet is just told go kill the thing.
Comapre this to the defence fleet that was told to assemble in Utopia and then had a nice leisurely stroll over to where they needed to be. The result is an almost certain pirate victory (good for the lore), a great sea of highsec tears and people thoroughly pissed at the empire FCs, which sounds to me very like the lore scenario for Rubicon.
TL;DR - It is my theory that the 'failure' of today's event may actually have been a great success in terms of the metaplot. I hope this is true and if so congratulate CCP on a nice bit of social engineering.


Confirming I am extremely mad at Jamyl Sarum and other NPCs. Roll
Liesje Allister
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-11-07 22:12:55 UTC
It's a succes in the way that highsec pilots were traumatized forever. Big smile
Ertur Adestur
Hek Xplo Ltd
#4 - 2013-11-07 22:18:01 UTC
Yeah, I think you're on to it. I haven't been involved with any event before, being relatively new to the game, so I don't know how it's normally organized. But this didn't seem to be organized at all.

Anyway, I personally learned a few things from it all, so I'm all good.
Serleanka Darkwater
Biber Hyper Logistics
#5 - 2013-11-07 22:29:22 UTC
Well assuming you are wrong and this in fact was just some big screwup from CCP (would not surprise me that much) they should really really take your concept and disguise their failure this way.

Players usually dont get mad at NPCs, they get mad at the devs
scimichar
Deep Hole Explorers of New Eden
#6 - 2013-11-07 22:30:03 UTC
Paragraphs are helpful.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#7 - 2013-11-07 22:31:45 UTC
Danhiil Xadi wrote:
So as many of you probably know today's live event was a complete shambles I mean it was a pretty poor showing from pretty much everyone involved. However after waking up back in the station I got thinking, what if it was designed to fail?

I have no problem with a suicide mission. I do have a problem with a complete and total lack of organization, communication and execution. Offering us all up on the sacrificial altar to appease Goons is another matter entirely.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Horatio Nately
808 Enterprises
#8 - 2013-11-07 22:42:45 UTC
Danhiil Xadi wrote:
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you're really looking too much into it. this was a **** op and seems to have been planned within the last 2-3 days and not thought over very well. CCP has never run decent live events since they canned their full time live event team. the old live event team used to run multiple lower scale events and were good at it. so now, ccp has no experience to run this kind of **** and are trying to cram everyone and their ******* mom into 2 hisec systems and expecting **** to run itself through the magical sandbox **** they believe in. the end result is soul crushing unplayable lag that resulted in about 200-300 of the guys who were traveling to say **** it and left before even getting to the hisec jumpoff to lowsec. when we finally made it to the jumpoff the ******* ccp shitlord that was leading us on ditched us in stacmon so we didnt know where the **** to go. we had to look on some of the ccp dev twitter accounts to find the destination.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#9 - 2013-11-07 22:46:00 UTC
Sure it's a meta plot win.

On the other hand, it's a terrible fail for the Null Sec alliances, for the Future of EVE Events and the life of null.
Because it just massively reinforced the idea that A: nothing pilots do will alter things when you aren't given enough time to even jump from A to B to take part if you wanted to bring a fleet.
B: That the giant null sec blocs aren't worth fighting and can't be fought successfully from high sec (This one is almost certainly true) and that the only way to live out there is to join the giant blue doughnut and make it bigger.
C: That the Empires are utterly incompetent and not worth even caring about. At which point the lore ceases to be worth caring about because the Empires are the focus of the lore. So power gaming and ignoring RP is the way forward.

So sure, it's a meta plot win.... That almost certainly would have happened anyway even if the high sec players had been bridged into right next door or even the target systems with decent Empire fleets including a few caps for them to support. But would have been a much better event if that had happened.
Cornwalace
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-11-07 22:48:25 UTC
Serleanka Darkwater wrote:
Well assuming you are wrong and this in fact was just some big screwup from CCP (would not surprise me that much) they should really really take your concept and disguise their failure this way.

Players usually dont get mad at NPCs, they get mad at the devs


My thought's exactly.

It would be par for the course
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#11 - 2013-11-07 22:51:04 UTC
EVE Online News wrote:
Join the empires in an assault!
reported by: CCP Eterne | 2013.11.06 17:09:54


The four empires in EVE Online are launching an assault on a dangerous target on November 7! They are inviting all capsuleers to join them in this assault and bring down what they claim is a threat to the entire cluster. You can join them in the systems of Sarum Prime or Meves at 18:50 UTC on November 7. Representatives from the empires will be in those systems to gather up fleets of interested players. Read more about it here.


Was this threat to the entire cluster CCP perchance?

Pray speak it true...
Rikki Bigg
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#12 - 2013-11-08 00:41:45 UTC
Danhiil Xadi wrote:
So as many of you probably know today's live event was a complete shambles I mean it was a pretty poor showing from pretty much everyone involved. However after waking up back in the station I got thinking, what if it was designed to fail?

The whole point of Rubicon is that capsuleers are becoming dissatisfied with the empires and leaving their control, however many players are totally fine with the empires which is at odds with what the lore wants. What better way to dissatisfy their followers than to have them issue a massive CTA to loyalists then whelps spectacularly due to their **** poor execution. Lets review the events, people are told to stage in Saurm Prime ready to go half an hour before the off they're told through very round about means to go to Ihal. Even under ideal conditions that's a bit of a push also if the target was RMOC-W why assemble so far away? This seems pretty odd for a live event.

After a slog half way across the cluster the fleet dribbles into Ihal and before it gathers any real strengh is told to set course for RMOC through the Doril corridor a pretty well know camping site. Again a little odd but not a huge oversight.

The Amarrian commander running the fleet the decides to hold on the gate for quite a while knowing there was a large camp on the other side, he could be waiting for people to catch up but why do it here rather than back in HiSec? The net result is that the fleet is slowly weakened as people get impatient and jump into the camp. At this stage the communication pretty much stops and the fleet is just told go kill the thing.

Comapre this to the defence fleet that was told to assemble in Utopia and then had a nice leisurely stroll over to where they needed to be. The result is an almost certain pirate victory (good for the lore), a great sea of highsec tears and people thoroughly pissed at the empire FCs, which sounds to me very like the lore scenario for Rubicon.

TL;DR - It is my theory that the 'failure' of today's event may actually have been a great success in terms of the metaplot. I hope this is true and if so congratulate CCP on a nice bit of social engineering.

Edit: Formatting


+1

Much better than my theory today, that the event was just a carrot tied to a multiple faceted stress test on the server.

It's not like folks will show up if CCP says 'come fly through 20 jumps of 10%tidi', and they can't give away skill points like on Singularity.