Live Events Discussion

As i wrote in the other thread...

Did you expect candies in Doril?

Also for those who are whining i even wrote in event channel before the **** hit fun " doril is camped you will die "
well no one cared about that.

You'll pardon me if I don't read the last 20 pages.

1) no Intel? 600 people roaming around hisec relying on uncertain and misleading TWEETS, going through heavy TIDI systems?

2) One day advance warning?

3) Drag a bunch of unorganized fleets deep into nullsec? Because the nullsec dwellers will stay put and let it happen, far from their mind to come and reap the easy targets.

I expected to lose ships; I expected PvP; I also expected to actually see what the event was, before or while getting blasted to smithereens by 24 different T3 ships ('twas fun to be oneshotted though :P).

I did not expect to come out of lo/null with my ship; I knew the nullsec dwellers would jump at the free killmails. I half expected to lose the pod as well (but I got that home).

What I did not expect was that I would've spent hours going through 10% tidi systems in HISEC trying to figure what the heck was going on where.

Say what you want, the issue with this event wasn't (primarily) the big ass ganking, it was the total lack of purpose or direction from CCP; I can have an "event" like that every evening - grab a PUG fleet in a trade hub and jump around randomly in low/null till no ships are left. Profit?

Keep them tears rolling

To ccp pls do events like this more often gr8 time doing it I had no problem going In to null sec
It was my choice to jump in.
I knew that my fate was to die in a bubble but dam I had fun doing it

Set course for staging area.
Saw the destination, I was like "yeah right". 180 degrees turn back to home system.
I knew that even if CONCORD would be involved there was no way null blocks will miss the chance.
Even if Navy Titans and whatnot would have been staged, trust me null players wouldn't have missed the chance to turn it into a bloodbath.
It's null...what did you guys expect? (plus it is an obvious tie-in to the upcoming lore...)
And about the TiDi...when was the last time you heard that uberfleets can roam in systems and not generate TiDi? What was in your heads - you thought just because it's a live event it will run on Skynet?
Stop complaining about CCP's organization skills - if you actually payed attention to what goes around in this game, you should have seen this coming an AU away...CCP played it by the books.

Plus by the looks of it...you all might be featured in a trailer

Just FYI, there was more than "ONE EVIL FLEET OF NULLSEC MAD SLAUGHETERERS HARVESTING HISECCER KILLMAILS" (tm), perhaps the initial onslaught was done primarily by Razor alliance, but later on a full-scaled battle between nullsec powers broke out at the gate, and resulted in destruction of 3 capital ships and loads of battleships, not to mention the smaller vessels.

If the event was better coordinated, it could have been a great experience for the new players, giving them indeed a taste of pros and cons of the nullsec warfare (yes, TiDi, lag and 300+ enemy blobs are our common life, but so are sweet, sweet killmails, seeing capital ships melt under your fire and so on). So I can imagine people's frustration at CCP and it in fact makes me frustrated too, because instead of providing fresh and eager blood to our nullsec it caused many people to turn their backs on the null and come back to their silent loathing of the "EBUL ZERO ZERO EMPIRES" while mining veldspar.

So if I may suggest something - CCP, next time ask your CSM contacts who are the right persons to talk to in the nullsec powers, ask them for support. Some may ignore the call, some may react in a completely adverse way, but I am sure there will be nullsec players and forces happy to assisst you - just to annoy other nullsec forces, if not for anything else.

We did not expect to win with goons but we expected to have lots of fun.
There should be fleets organized by CCP at each side. They should led players to battle, and they shoud fight with eachothers in titans or dreds to make it epic empires vs pirates battle. To not disrupt outcome of the event they could even all die in battle at the beginning, but the attack would be coordinated and epic.
But this was a one sided massacre. Our fleet of 250 pilots didn't get there in time, but we still got there, fought and lost.
So, great empire concord battle vs pirates with bows vs nukes. Pathetic.

Oh you silly self entitled fool. I bet you hate anyone playing the game in any other way than the way you play it.

Tell me, will the next AT event be held in space that anyone can **** on the proceedings? How does the AT "theme park" event fit into your view of what CCP does/doesn't provide?

I don't do Live Events, but I can fully appreciate the disappointment expressed by those that did take part.

Yes because the AT is a live event right? It is an event held outside of tranquility. And having a tournament doesn't mean themepark. If you want to apply the same logic of the live event to the AT, then what you want is to actually be part of the alliance tournament while CCP providing a captain for you.

Anyways yes I am the "entitled" one, asking CCP to provide content for me =).

I am happy that your provided counter arguments for my arguments.

If it's a troll, I give it 8/10.



Having an event in TIDI is expected. Moving 20 jumps in hisec in heavy tidi without a clue if you're going the right way is neither expected nor fun.



Leading the fleets isn't necessary. Telling the fleets what to do would've been nice tho. We relied on half-assed troll attempts and tweets from different source to figure out where to go.


They have provided the tools 10 years ago and they keep doing it. I still have a very high esteem for CCP for making a great game and the only one I played for more than six straight months, despite it not being free.

But if you claim there's an EVENT I expect something DIFFERENT than the usual. I can grab a blob and go be killed in null or losec anytime. I didn't ask CCP to organize an event, but was happy when they did, and would've loved to participate. As it is, I participated in a blob gank, big deal. Not the first ship I lose in a camp and not the last for sure, and I'm not complaining about that. I would've liked to SEE the actual event though.

[qipte]6- It was very clear from the beginning that this was a pirate oriented event, seriously you didn't think that it was going to be staged in null? If you can't afford to lose it (even your ****** pod) don't undock.[/quote]

It was supposed to be staged in Meves and Sarum Prime. Not sure about Sarum, but from meves we moved randomly to stacmon under info coming from *TWEETS*. There was no staging point - 2000 random people joining for an event are not going to mount an organized force, unless there's some direction.
From there we jumped into low, under the assumption that the blob in 8V-SJJ was the place to be. We didn't KNOW. We didn't have scouts or logi, as it was a PUG.
I don't care about the lost ship (I expected to lose it), but as mentioned I would've liked to understand what the event was all about. As it is I saw a 30+ fleet of T3 in some backwater losec system, and I've got news that the event was in 8V-SJJ, but not sure about it - and this costed me two hours of crawling thruogh hisec space.
I'm not sure about you, but for me traveling in hisec space is about as much fun as a canal therapy.



So the whole point of the event was giving fresh targets to the nullsec players? You've got a very limited view. No company in their sane mind would knowingly screw part of their playerbase (67% is hisec dwellers) with the sole purpose of providing entertainment for the rest of the playerbase (20% of nullsec dwellers).
The event was probably supposed to be a medium to give some more players the very much needed pvp experience. PVP in Eve is adrenalinic and scary - you actually lose stuff, not like every other MMO. People need to figure out how fun it is, before they actually put their hard earned isk on the line.



Yeah. And the next time, make sure you know what you're going to do, and we know it too.

Just quoted the parts that matter from the rest of the post:

CCP did actually say that they would be forming Fleets in the systems at 1850hrs so get your facts straight before you try "Knowledge Beat" everyone else.

Nothing was very clear from before the event, during or after. People arrived fitted for PvE expecting some kind of massive "Incursion" style event and others just grabbed anything to hand. In fact you'll see people in the LE Forum asking if the event was over at around 2300hrs...and yes it was and had been for some time.

Information control was in place ot stop the Null Blocks from tramping all over it and while I understand that telling Capsuleers to go here under 10% TiDi and then go back 8 jumps and then to Null and then to here isn't organisation...it's chaos without rhyme or reason.

I came to be part of something big, to fight for my universe to participate in a "unique situation. We do not foresee having to repeat this call to action". Most pilots just ended in TiDi hell trying to get from some point in space someone had posted from some other channel or Twitter to the various channels that were supposed to be being used to co-ordinate an all Emperical Navy forces and capsuleer strike force.

Everyone I flew with was in something they could afford to lose and had JC'd into blank clones as most people know this. Don't come across as being 1337 and crap-posting just to feel superior.

The forum rage is about the lack of information on the event and during the event (if we can even still call it that). It's mostly not about the losses but about the information, formation and how that information was delivered etc. Twitter is not the best way since this was an In-Game Live Event being driven (or so we thought) by CCP\CCP in the role of In-Game Actors.

A lot of people put a lot of time (RL time) into this and that is was simply a clusterfuck of universal proportions. These kind of "events" are generated every single day in eve from pilots just getting together. We don't need CCP to gear that kind of content, we do that already. This was touted as being something of epic proportions and all it was was an example of a lot of people being messed about.