Player Features and Ideas Discussion

According to CCP @ EVE-Vegas, when it's in reinforced mode you can come and remove anything from it. Can you just see the ganker tears? Miners deploy this in a belt, Gevlon Goblin and co. show up - simply strip your fitting into the depot once they attack. All they profit from is salvage (no drops). Unless I'm missing something?

$10 says you can't deploy them in missions, lol.

Actually, zero does not work. If you're going to be butthurt that something other than a Noctis has a tractor bonus, do it in response to someone else's attempts to be constructive.

What might be cool would actually be to see marauders given a substantial salvage range bonus as opposed to tractor bonus.
Say something like a 60km salvage range.
This would mean they would be the king of salvage, while the noctis would be king of loot/salvage.

Might sound weird, but it's a sound idea.

I don't actually have a Marauder yet, but I don't use webs anyway. That's what lights are for. So I'm in support of removing the web bonus and boosting the tractor bonus.

Anyway, what's this "get over your marauder" business doing in a... wait for it...

..marauder thread?

Ok, I'll go back to one of my much earlier posts on balance.

Ok, so balance the base hulls around tracking.
Lots of tracking bonuses.
Balance sensors
buff HP
Perhaps give t2 resists

Take bastion and give it fitting penalties
Reduces tracking bonuses in exchange for range bonuses
Reduces sensors
Reduces HP
Perhaps loses t2 resists

Bastion retains all current bonuses.
Ships would not be given webs, but out of bastion, would have pretty good tracking.
Enough for 1-2 webs/ web and warp scram would allow you to reasonably track a close range frig.

Bastion also gives you a targeting range bonus when bastioned.


Along the lines of my last comment,
Exchange tractor range bonus for salvager range bonus.. Possibly 1000% range bonus, giving them 60km salvage range.
This is because the vast majority of Marauder pilots focus on salvage and not loot.
This would allow the noctis to still be the loot and salvage king due to salvage cycle, cargohold, and tractor range and velocity.

Perhaps the bonus to salvage would only be with bastion?

Alternately, the base hull could possibly come with a AB velocity bonus OR removal of MWD cap penalty per level up to 0 penatly at Marauders 5.
While fitting bastion would revert this bonus to MJD bonus.


This allows long and short range mobility platforms, and long and short range stationary tanks.

If CCP has to make everyone happy, this is probably the only way to do it.
If they're not trying to make everyone happy, then they're fine with iteration 3.

Can't truly use salvage drones on the go cause they get shot at, and it relies on tractors to keep them in close, and we're already arguing about tractor range not being significant enough

According to pages earlier in this thead, the secret to using salvage drones on-the-go is to apparently kill all the frigs first. Cruisers and up don't care about them.

Or was it that other thread about marauders and drones..

i like the changes a lot, think it will be a big improvement to the ships, but i still dont get why the sensor strength on these ships is so low, even the t1 hulls they based form have a higher sensor strength Why do you make a t2 hull so prone to jamming !!!

So what are the new Marauders actually geared towards then? It's obviously not PvP, and we've heard quite a few comments that some won't fare well in incursions after this. Definitely L4s, but it's not like there aren't a dozen or more hulls that also excel at L4s. There's the "shoot and loot" aspect, but again - a solid L4 mission runner + Noctis will still outperform a Marauder. Most who've trained for them will still use in that capacity, but what's the incentive?