Player Features and Ideas Discussion

These are not the drones you're looking for... I honestly don't care about the stasis web bonus one way or the other, but I think this whole Marauder fiasco serves as an example of how not to conduct a rebalancing. I previously made the suggestion to just defer this until the next update after Rubicon, and I still think considering how important these ships are that it's probably the best way forward.

with bastion you need far less tank than normal. if youve fit 4 tank modules you now only need two at most. this means you fit 2 additional TE or a TE and damage mod. in the mids you replace your web(s) with tracking comps with tracking scrpts.

Again I urge you to test this on sissi so you can see the error of you ways

Blasters.

Your rails should still be effective down to 15 to 20k if you burn away from the frigs and force them to follow.

im sure rails and arty will also be effective for their increased dammage application at longer ranges than AC and blasters and will be vable alternatives but they WILL require slightly different tactics. that said I was blown away by what difference just two TC did to my tracking and ability to hit frigs as well as the decrease in locking time with a single sebo (base 166, 266 sebo'd scan res).

from my testing last night Id say my average missipn times will prolly go down once I get used to the bastion timing and proper use of the mjd. jumping into the center of a ball of cruiser/bs had me ripping them a new one in half the time it would have taken me normally.

Hi CCP I have an idea. How about remove incursion from hisec, this will surely force people to PvP in their Paladins and Kronoses.

I've seen 1400mm tempests instapop kiting stealth bombers, clearly you're underestimating the sheer badassery a high tracking no damage lost to range 1400mm ship represents to anything larger than space dust.....

there's a reason the vargur has only 1/3rd the PG of a maelstrom upon its initial release...and tracking buffed 1400mm's were it.


@Ytterbium & co.

I'm relieved to see CCP is actually decided on doing their job now, however bastion is still a broken box of fertilizer that doesn't really achieve much of anything that's not already there for the ships to use as they are now on TQ.

honestly believe CCP should stop focusing on making these 'solo battleships' cuz battleships don't solo (they used to, but no longer and never again) - they work in packs or teams, at lowest supported 1 BS with a few(2-3) BC/t3 hulls (granted many good nano pest, machariel and phoon fits that used to do well prior nerfs - but not anymore) slow, low agility ships on hunting roams are dead ships, or best ships that go home empty handed.

so i can't help but sit here and laugh when i read your posts suggesting you're scared at these ships being good in RR fleets, even though it's what marauders are currently good at - it's like they don't wanna see people working as a team in EvE and want us all to become self dependent isolationists that wouldn't understand the concept of a fleet even after it hit us in the face.

marauders are already tanky enough for missions, incursions and anomalies, already have enough capacitor recovery when flown right to not need an ASB EVER, much less a dual fit (sure it still has advantages but it's not the requirement many here are suggesting it is)

what they lack is a good way to roll them into fleets where PvP pilots can actually use them, without needing to undock 4 squadrons of remote booster ships for one marauder hull - damage projection's no good when you're fighting at ranges less than 50 kilometers 9/10 times and at 150 for the rest - these ships already project at those ranges - and more importantly so do the targets they're trying to hunt.

ewar immunity's great and all but i can't move to maintain my own tackle, no battleship really can - so will be required to function in a team anyway if i hope to kill anything, may as well carry another vampire instead to power my shield booster while i nuke the target my interceptors have caught - or better yet a few RR mods and cap xfers.

you need to rethink the system a bit as i have said before, and'll be inclined to keep saying until you've got it done - you've been given good ideas here make use of them.

my testing has shown that a single omni tank mod and the LAR is all you will need, have fun with your two free lows. you can replace the webber with a tracking mod, a cap recharger with a sebo because of how strong your reps are and replace the mwd with a mjd. you might even be able to replace the second cap booster with a TC too. you can switch from tracking scripts to range as needed and even use AM ammo.

adapt and you will do missions so much faster than before. also remember, no more npc ewar, ever!

that vargur is overtanked and you completely missed the point of the mjd! drop the 2nd invul, get a gist large b-type and replace mwd with mjd. fit sebo/3rd TC to taste and proceed to kick some faces in.

this is very true. what a lot of eft warriors dont get, and is evident from the fits they post, is that we fly the marauder because it can loot and salvage AT THE SAME TIME!

doing 10% less damage is acceptable if we make double the isk in the same amount of time.

Thanks for the pointers, if they go thru with their plan I'll have to adapt or something. I am just going to be very disappointed. at this point the Kronos has been my single largest SP and isk investment. It is my favorite ship I am still maxing skills related to it and its fit. Some of which I might not need after the change. I am also working towards cap ships and hope when I have the skills they don't ruin them as well. Ironically when I finally got the skills for a dreadnaught, the Moros, they removed the drones which I was looking forward to taking advantage of. At least there I understood and agreed with the changes.

That is it for me tonight thanks everyone for the good conversations. o/