Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As the Vargur and Golem are my main ships and lvl 4 missions are my main income, I have some issues with the new ideas. From my point of view, the marauders class in general (as T2 ships are designed for specializing) is to specialize in PVE/missions. Currently their benefits over pirate BS are better tank, more efficient ammo use, tractor beam range and cargohold.

It seems after rubicon that the marauders will be losing most of this specialization.
Tractor beam deployed module now means Faction BS share similar ability.
MJD takes most function away from 48km tractor beams.
Ships are being reduced in speed now to limit ability of afterburners.

During missions I rarely find myself sitting still and constantly moving around to collect wrecks, meaning the bastion module would lesson the current isk/hr rate of marauders instead of increasing it.

I suggest that the bastion module also further increase the range of tractor beams to give it a defined advantage in a PVE role over pirate BS.

I can make it work in a few frigate and cruiser gangs. They will be most fun in small roaming, defence fleets and solo though.

Or you could have just moved 1km /facepalm.

I think what you're meaning is anything in a 52km-148km range using a MJD allows you to have "quicker" access to. Of course the 52km should be reviewed in terms of spool up time vs just using a MWD to move into range, so the low end range may be more like 55km-60km (keeping in mind if you're already moving close to 800km+/sec, still moving that fast while tractoring means it will be pulled in faster than a sitting ship).

with stacking penalty on the range bonus of bastion mode, i dont you it would be wise to use more than 2 range modules/riggs on the ship. I think the range bonus on the bastion mode is design to free up some range riggs or modules so you can use the empty slots for mwd or mjd or tracking computer. if you dont change any modules in the TQ vargur, the bastion bonus will be stack penalize to almost notihng.(something like 5km more falloff?)

Have you seen the "new" Golem, or as I'm fond of calling it - the "Platypus".

I defended exactly same opinions in the past pages. I also remember that something like wreck tractor platform which will pull the wrecks together from far away. I think I saw that on the ccp rubicon preview. That is my only hope for now. No matter what we will be writing, the design is on the sisi. Even though I personally didn't like current design, something like this will make its way into tq.

There is not much to say, because people really find these changes interesting and appealing. Some of them think that these changes will solve current Marauder problems. I hope they will, because I've been playing with my Vargur all the time, and I don't feel the same enjoyment as I felt in the past during sisi testing. Meh for me.

Oh now I see, an armor is brought through the shield planes. That animation should be more attractive and visible. Lightning is required on those armor plates.

When I heard the word "transform" for the first time, this was what I expected: http://youtu.be/veyX-miC4VM?t=16s

:P At least something in a similar way :P

Edit: Wouldn't it be cool to transform like this in front of an exotic dancer and simply tell her "My name is Vargur Prime" :P

I think I'm loosing it :D

Here's another good idea.

Let's stop treating PvE as a "role". Because it's not a role.

Who ever talks about PvP as a "role"? Nobody. That's because in order to be PvP capable, a ship must actually have certain roles that it performs well to have some sort of application. One of the big problems I keep seeing here is that everyone keeps assuming that PvE is in fact a "role".

No.

PvE, like PvP, is a category of interactions the player can take with some aspect of the game universe. A role would be how the ship actually carries those interactions out, or even what sorts of things they can and cannot do. It doesn't make sense to say "It does PvE" to me, because it's such a vague and undefined blanket statement that the ship more or less doesn't do anything. Instead of that, let's consider a different direction. Letting the ship's role decide what it's capable of doing, PvE OR PvP. Which implies that care must be taken to actually consider activities in either 'half' of the game. You could fit the ship in one way to maximize performance in a certain role that fits best with PvE content. And then, you could fit it in another way, which allows it's stats to be more aligned towards PvP.

If every ship in the game could to some extent do this, we'd have a much better game, IMO.

so basically this is for 0.0 baiting. you warp into anom with the afk cloaker in system. start shooting rats.
afk cloaker warps in and points you. you activate ubertank and light your own cyno. enemy blops fleet dies to your cap fleet? is this the afk cloaker nerf ccp?