Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ok I agree. You wont deploy a dread to kill a lone marauder. But you also wont solo pvp in a maruder in a WH. And when a fleet is present a capital escalation is like 50% possible. Then those marauders become a primary for a dread.

Besides I believe that their PvP use in unlikely anyway. When I said about WH I meant PvE and for high-end sleepers they will be useless without high resists outside bastion.

Agreed.

Odds are the marauder won't be used for WH pvp, HOWEVER, the way it is right now, most people don't use their pve ship in pvp cause it's typically a lot more blingy and they don't have anything to fall back on if they lose that ship.


Now, these ships can be that blinged out ship that you use for pve, but not pvp.
If you do manage to get caught out in that ship, well, you have a better chance of survival than you do in a Marauder right now.

Dunno about sensors, but CCP did mention a few pages back that they are aware they may have over nerfed the hulls.

Joe as the main cheerleader for this change vs the twenty or so that seem to still harbor reservations about this marauder change,

Have you been using a TQ cruise Golem? to test against the Sisi Bastion Cruise Golem? or are you only testing the Bastion golem?

Seemingly Everything you are praising about the Bastion module seems to be already available on the ship ingame, but not tied to such severe penalties.

Currently the SIsi marauder performs much worse out of bastion then the TQ does, and has such drawbacks while in bastion that there is little to no reason for me to continue using it when there are similar viable options for mission running that do not require me to be such a huge stationary target.

Remember that there is going to be a change in alignment and warp as well as the lower base alignments added to the ship hulls. they will be significantly slower in mission completion times vs t3, when travel time from mission acceptance is also included.

For PVP
I cant think of any situation where i would want to be anchored in a 1 bil isk ship with no rr
" Remember that the spool up nature of the Micro Jump Drives plus the time needed to align will give opponents a window of opportunity to tackle them before they can jump again."

basically you are either rooted till they get the dps to overwhelm you, or you are exploding trying to run. Once out of bastion your ship hull is the same as t1 bs.

The unfortunate result brings up a question: Why this thing needs to be stopped in order to play it in an enjoyable fashion?
I feel like a f$#ng wow mage with an old blink glyph that further blinks everywhere and start casting stuff in order to do dps.

Mjd there, get into bastion, bam bam bam, enemy is getting close!, so get stuff together, mjd other place, hit bastion again bam bam bam...

I mean, what the...?

Edit: Even it is not told by anyone, there are very strong bold border fences that was put around playstyle of a Marauder, which forces player into the bastion mode in order to do "something".

Well, you can still apply same without going into bastion, but it is harder now, especially for those don't want to adapt bastion playstyle.

Even worse, those who hate bastion playstyle, will hate using marauder even more, because its regular playstyle is nerfed and became more boring.

I know some guys that didn't read my older posts will come up with "use prop mod" idea, which would be an excellent and yet mindless thing to do...

Good start with that line. Go on, maybe one day you will accomplish understanding whole picture. A criticizm like this only shows that there really are people who doesn't have anything to say about subject, and rather watching what other people says and if not understood what is typed correctly, throw an "other side is an idiot" criticism. Job is done. The Oscar reward is going to you.

- Have you ever done a mission with a marauder?
- Do you see any problems about it in TQ?
- Do you find any ideas to get it enhanced?
- Did you bring those ideas into discussion?
- Did you read about the current state of marauders that devs trying to put into the game?
- Did you criticize or support any ideas of the current state of the marauders?
- Did you test marauder's state on sisi?
- Did you read my previous comments?

Maybe, at least, you will try to read and understand, before making your most valuable posts again.

Edit: It really hurts to see someone like you, made a lot of discussion about the subject, came up with that post. Maybe you're bored?

Sorry for my previous harsh input, I've just come from testing and have a keyboard rage right now. But yes, I read your previous comments. The point is that I don't understand English urban dictionary very-well, **** happens sometimes because of this.

Not meant any harm to you, take my apologies ;)

And y not replace the mini-dread module by a mini-carrier module?

- un-nerf the hull and keep the buff
- remove the MJD bonus to replace it with drones bonus (hp/dmg)
- add more drone bay/bandwith
- change the range bonus of the bastion module for a +25km drones range, add a bandwith bonus and and something like ''Can deploy 5 additionnal drones'' when active

Throwing 10 drones on frigs should be cool and it add to the overall dps

CCP Ytterbium is it really so much to ask for to apply the bastion mod idea to a 2. marauder hull(same hull, you can change slightly the paint job, even the same one would do) and keep marauders as they are(or better yet fix the biggest issues)?

Most T2 ship already got 2 variants, one more geared towards projection and dps and one more focused on tank and utility. So keeping this in mind we could just add 4 new ships focused around bastion and give the old ones a different bonus instead of the active tanking one(since it is already highly situational and wasted where they shine the most, in gang focused pve).

Marauders do fill a few niches today:

The CNR can't really fit active tank + torps well, the golem however can and just needs a lot more speed and a explosive velocity bonus to polish it as dedicated torpedo platform. The Kronos can be very good, as rail+sentry platform(where the Vindicator got issues) that is very mobile(1100m/s) extreme flexible with the range(utility slots for drone links), can cover close range with rails and sentry's with the web bonus and can also shine when you need the utility mods for other stuff(like RR in RR gangs or smart bombs/nos for pvp). What the Kronos needs is 125/275 drone bay(2 sentry sets for different ranges + lights) and the optimal/tracking bonus of the domi for drones. The Vargur simply needs the ability to fit artillery and a optimal bonus to become a more focused medium range artillery platform. The Paladin is mostly fine, and a tracking bonus instead of the optimal one would be cool.

Also a bit more scan resolution and sensor strength would be nice, also a cap use bonus for mwd and a cpu fitting bonus for the Golem and Vargur for shield transporters, similar like on logis.

And yet the main attribute that was put on them intentionally upon release to explicitly make them PVE battleships - the low sensor strength - is kept.