Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Dear CCP,

I would like to point out to some issue I found testing different setups on SiSi last night. Issue is ASB tank on Vargur and Golem. So I had a very plain fit on my golem: MJD, 2x XL ASB, 2x Invuls, Shield boost amplifier and TP, damage control, 2x bcus, co processor, t1 resist rigs and rapid heavy launchers.
I was sitting on one of the combat beacons with bastion mode turned on when 2x Paladins, Bhaalgorn and sleipnir engaged me. Despite having 0 cap thanks to Bhaalgorn I had no issues tanking them. After 10 minute fight I realized that my ship would run out of missiles faster then it would run out of Cap booster 400 for reloading ASBs. in 10 minute fight I only realoaded ONE of my ASBs ONCE. I find this odd. I understand that this is not issue of ship but broken ASB mechanics you have implemented and refuse to fix. While armor ships are still vulnerable to neuts and u cannot do anything about ASB fit battleships unless you don't poses a huge alpha to simply break through it's rep cycles. I've to admit that rep amount on shield ships is stupidly high, full shield in 1 cycle?
In other threads I already pointed out on issue of fitting oversized reps to shield tanked ships (X-L on cruiser and BC) while armor is still limited to only 1 AAR. ASB tank is much stronger on shield ships rather then on armor. For example you have to invest around 5-6 bil ISK into fit for Kronos to get almost half of ASB Vargur/Golem's tank. Why cannot you limit size of booster for individual class and limit number of ASBs fitted on ships? Shield looks a bit OP compared to armor tank just because of Shield boost amps, Active invuls that you can overheat and of course Crystal set implants. I would appreciate to actually get an answer on my question at least once, or should I simply do a mass petition so you can pay attention to this issue?
Thanks ahead.

shame those ships won't be able to shoot anything with 0 cap while golem and vargur can.

The difference between active armor tank and active shield tank is too big and its sad that no one is doing with that anything.

The only way how to have similar repair amount as shield is to fit 2 repairers and then because its still not enough you must fit also rigs to increase repair amount. I really dont think that its correct. (this is for example comparison between tengu and legion and legion fit will be even more expensive, but its not only these 2 ships)

Other thing is that you have less effective HP just due to the fact that you can count with shields at all...

Shield vs. armor is extremely well balanced except for the Gist line of boosters. I've posted this at least 8 times but people still don't get it. Shield boosters (except for the Gist line) use huge amounts of capacitor. Two armor reppers have almost identical rep/second and rep/cap amounts as a shield booster and a SBA of the same meta level, again with the exception of Gist boosters. Shield has the advantage of frontloaded repairing and invuln fields being higher strength than EANMs. Armor has the advantages of far superior rig options, less cap use (invuln IIs use a ton of cap on a cruiser) and far superior overloading performance.

Gist boosters just need to be nerfed into the ground, period. There's a reason a Gist XLSB costs over 1 billion.

These things can tank small gangs with no help at all, I look forwards to baiting black ops gangs with counter cynos or just flailing upon bombers with Golems with rapids and neuts.

CCP have stated teircide is going to make all combat ships viable in pvp and stated in this very thread that these ships are being reworked with the goal of a viable role in pvp.

Still w8ing for their new stats. Especially better range bonuses in bastion...


BTW. For those interested, single dread will tear apart bastion without problems, tested on golem with DCU, T2 Invus x2, x-large ASB + large ASB + boost amplifier, all overheated and Naglfar blap it within seconds...

Sorry but I did not wait 5 years for this garbage. If you are going to change the nature of a ship or its original role and force a new play style a refund of sp should come with it. There is nothing wrong with having a PvE specialized ship. Ok. I will look forward to the changes to all industrial ships, mining barges, capital industrial ships and freighters for PvP.

The transformations are just a waste of time. Do something better like rendering skins for ships that now have less turrets than before. Empty potential turret hardpoints look stupid when I have a full rack of weapons.

MJD still needs to have selectable ranges. If the new role fir the ship is "harassing tactics" it would be better if others did no know that you were jumping off to a fixed 100km distance once the animation starts.

Less drones is less dps so shift that back into the guns/missiles.

How are ships that are hollow inside and have lame sensors and thin skin more heavy and less mobile than the faction navy ships?

Also for all T2 ships to have 2 rig slots rather than 3 is not too bad but what they should do is give 600 calibration rather than 400 for having 1 less rig.

The catch is.. can 't move while staying as dangerous or effective as it was before it deliberately thrown away its move capability.

Still not seeing any reason here to train marauders. I have the skill injected but not even at level 1 yet. Seriously this whole exercise feels like a massive waste of time and resouces.

Why would CCP do that for non combat ships?

The Kronos is built as a combat ship, it stands that it should be viable in combat.