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Countering AFK Clockers

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Lugia3
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#21 - 2013-08-25 18:58:28 UTC
I hate it when Clockers go AFK in my space.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#22 - 2013-08-25 21:33:55 UTC
you should AFK cloak them right back

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Phillip Jokar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-08-25 21:58:31 UTC
Fit a tank.
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#24 - 2013-08-25 21:58:59 UTC
Cephelange du'Krevviq wrote:

If they are AFK, they can't ******* hurt you.


She will reply that "yes, but one cannot know if is afk or not, so is still hurt their feeling and affecting the game, and if is affecting the game AFK then have to be consioderated like a BOT"

Then you'll try to explain that if she feels uncomfortable with a single neutral (probaly AFK) in the same system then problem is in her mind, not in the game mechanics.

At this point she will say "hey, don't go OT, we're talking about my personal feleing here not about game mechanics" and will restart from the first statement about how she wanting to PVP with someone AFK.

And she will continue so for 20 pages.
Then some forum moderator will lock the thread and the OP will start a new hidentical one using another alt.

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#25 - 2013-08-25 22:06:10 UTC
Oh and during the development of the thread there will be statement about mythological T1 frigates able to light cyno and hotdrop romulian fleet while cloacked and invulnerable.

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Shadow Cartel
#26 - 2013-08-25 23:52:26 UTC

I have never been shot at by an AFK cloaked player.


Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-08-26 00:41:28 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:

I have never been shot at by an AFK cloaked player.




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Vizvig
Savage Blizzard
#28 - 2013-08-26 01:31:36 UTC
I can count afk cloakers when i want to do it. There is a few ways to kill them, and i prefer do not explain how to do it for everyone.

But you can whine again.
Auduin Samson
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-08-26 03:57:12 UTC
CassHudson wrote:
AFK Cloaking - for weeks... is broken...


I'm not sure you understand how downtime works...
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#30 - 2013-08-26 12:51:07 UTC
AFK cloaking is one way to pvp, so you are getting pvp all the time, maybe not way you want it but...

EVE is funny game, everyone is afraid everything, paranoids everywhere.

best way to counter afk cloakers is to afk cloak too.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-08-27 05:24:48 UTC
AFK cloakers are a myth made up to get cloaking nerfed. Let me ask you something? Have YOU ever actually seen an AFK cloaker?

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#32 - 2013-08-27 10:52:47 UTC
What exactly is the issue with "AFK cloakers", dear OP?

If they're afk then they're no threat are they?
Inxentas Ultramar
Wachters der Lage Landen
The Watchmen.
#33 - 2013-08-27 19:20:15 UTC
Stop being a coward? Works for me! Do't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
The Bastion
#34 - 2013-08-28 03:59:58 UTC
I am a recidivist AFK-clocker and regularly lapse back into that sordid activity. I can promise you, though, that when I am truly AFK-clocked … both AFK and cloaked … I am absolutely no threat to you. Given how bad I am at eve I am also not a lot of threat to you even when I am active … but that is another matter altogether.

Yes, I am also guilty of 24/7 AFK-clocking … usually resource denial during war campaigns, with the occasional hot-drop thrown in to make the point.

When I was in sov-null, as well as my long life in w-space, we were regularly longtime AFK-cloaky camped. It can be a pain, it’s meant to be, but it is eminently fixable. Give them no joy and they will go away … and your posting here must be giving your resident cloaker lots and lots of tear-fueled joy.

TLDR: Not broken, nicely balanced game dynamic, live with it.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

JAF Anders
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-08-28 21:29:41 UTC
CassHudson wrote:


AFK cloak does not help create combat.



Oh, I think quite a bit of combat has been created already.

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Speedkermit Damo
Invicta.
Muffins of Mayhem
#36 - 2013-08-29 11:28:29 UTC
Best way to counter AFK cloakers, is to get as many people as possible AFK cloaky-camping Goons new renter empire. Then Goons will whine to CCP to nerf AFK cloaking, and CCP will fall over themselves to please them.

It's worked before, so it's worth a try.

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Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#37 - 2013-08-29 12:22:20 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
AFK cloakers are a myth made up to get cloaking nerfed. Let me ask you something? Have YOU ever actually seen an AFK cloaker?


i see what you did there...
Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
#38 - 2013-08-30 18:04:36 UTC
Every time I hear someone say this-

TheGunslinger42 wrote:
What exactly is the issue with "AFK cloakers", dear OP?

If they're afk then they're no threat are they?


I think of all the times my brother "walked into" my fist face first.

Ah, to be young again.

Tell me again about how every playstyle you dont engage in "doesn't require any effort" and everyone who does it needs to die in a fire. Be sure to mention about how you tried it once but it was too easy/boring/ethnic-homophobic slur. 

Kazim Scumling
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-08-30 19:00:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Kazim Scumling
There is one proven counter to AFK cloaking which we have applied with great success in the past

1. Find the carebears behind the cloaking activity or find their carebear friends/allies.
2. Locate where they make money (ratting systems? missioning systems? mining systems): All of them
3. Organize your nullbears to train and direct 12-14 AFK cloaking alts (should not take much) to lock down all those systems 7/23.
4. Persist doing that for at most 1 week.
5. AFK cloaker suddenly disappears.
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-08-30 21:28:01 UTC
Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:
Every time I hear someone say this-

TheGunslinger42 wrote:
What exactly is the issue with "AFK cloakers", dear OP?

If they're afk then they're no threat are they?


I think of all the times my brother "walked into" my fist face first.

Ah, to be young again.


Quite the hero, aren't you?

"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"