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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#121 - 2011-10-24 23:59:55 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
Oh my, this is like some kindergarten with insane mushroom pubbies.

Yes, I and many others want WiS.
No, we are not space barbies.
No, you are not kewl because you limit yourself to a spaceship.
Yes, I have expressed my opinion in a trillion other threads and it gets tiring.
Yes, such threads will continue.
No, you are stupid shooting each other for nuffin cos there is WoT, which I played all day, because I had a rough one.
Yes, EVE is giving you possibilities to play other playstyles.
No, not even The Mittani can change the basics of his avatar again atm and somehow I have the feeling that is why so many are against WiS. Please, Mittens. Make a more beautiful less Christopher Lee-as-Dracula toon sometime so your boys can peacefully shoot miners instead of the forum.

Sometimes on these forums lately I feel like in Groundhog Day...


YES you are in the wrong game
no you will not be missed
yes you can keep your stuffs


Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire

Now, I'm not a space barbie, but I like more immersion. I have played this game for four years and was looking forward to WiS. I have written some more educated articles on why it cannot happen than you copy/paste troll would ever be capable of. So get a brain and then reconsider.

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#122 - 2011-10-25 00:01:23 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
damn too many posts -.-

Issler wrote:


^^^^^^
Exactly! My point is from now to the end of time we will bein a single person box whenever we dock to remind us CCP couldn't even been bothered to add ANYTHING past the locked door.

Issler


YES they should roll it back and do away with Incarna. I agree



I personally would support rolling back Eve (except for all the work they have done to reduce lag) to the Eve just about when Alliances were first introduced. Liked that Eve a lot more.

Issler
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#123 - 2011-10-25 00:03:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Aidan Brooder wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
Oh my, this is like some kindergarten with insane mushroom pubbies.

Yes, I and many others want WiS.
No, we are not space barbies.
No, you are not kewl because you limit yourself to a spaceship.
Yes, I have expressed my opinion in a trillion other threads and it gets tiring.
Yes, such threads will continue.
No, you are stupid shooting each other for nuffin cos there is WoT, which I played all day, because I had a rough one.
Yes, EVE is giving you possibilities to play other playstyles.
No, not even The Mittani can change the basics of his avatar again atm and somehow I have the feeling that is why so many are against WiS. Please, Mittens. Make a more beautiful less Christopher Lee-as-Dracula toon sometime so your boys can peacefully shoot miners instead of the forum.

Sometimes on these forums lately I feel like in Groundhog Day...


YES you are in the wrong game
no you will not be missed
yes you can keep your stuffs


You can just shut up. You have no position at all. Following your forum posts and signatures, you just follow what you think is most appropriate at a given moment to be honest.

Now, I'm not a space barbie, but I like more immersion. I have played this game for four years and was looking forward to WiS. I have written some more educated articles on why it cannot happen than you copy/paste troll would ever be capable of. So get a brain and then reconsider.


Yes, IM the stupid one when you want them to continue producing a product that REDUCED THEIR COMPANY 20%

I at least want CCP to GROW - NOT - shrink.
Who's the least intelligent here?

Also, yes, I have to copy paste my points a lot. Mainly because people ignore the obvious. Like the WoD/Incarna connection.

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Valkris Arkayne
Perkone
Caldari State
#124 - 2011-10-25 00:07:05 UTC
CCP,

Add my voice to the many who still want WiS. In fact, my continuance on EVE depends on it. I first joined EVE when WiS was announced those many years ago, and have been waiting patiently ever since - dabbling in and out of EVE and other games until SOMEONE does ships and characters correctly. So far, no one has.

EVE, you are our last, best hope for a ship game that's more than just pew-pew. PLEASE don't give up the good fight.

Evolve or die. Don't choose to fade through stagnation.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#125 - 2011-10-25 00:07:14 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
Oh my, this is like some kindergarten with insane mushroom pubbies.

Yes, I and many others want WiS.
No, we are not space barbies.
No, you are not kewl because you limit yourself to a spaceship.
Yes, I have expressed my opinion in a trillion other threads and it gets tiring.
Yes, such threads will continue.
No, you are stupid shooting each other for nuffin cos there is WoT, which I played all day, because I had a rough one.
Yes, EVE is giving you possibilities to play other playstyles.
No, not even The Mittani can change the basics of his avatar again atm and somehow I have the feeling that is why so many are against WiS. Please, Mittens. Make a more beautiful less Christopher Lee-as-Dracula toon sometime so your boys can peacefully shoot miners instead of the forum.

Sometimes on these forums lately I feel like in Groundhog Day...


YES you are in the wrong game
no you will not be missed
yes you can keep your stuffs


You can just shut up. You have no position at all. Following your forum posts and signatures, you just follow what you think is most appropriate at a given moment to be honest.

Now, I'm not a space barbie, but I like more immersion. I have played this game for four years and was looking forward to WiS. I have written some more educated articles on why it cannot happen than you copy/paste troll would ever be capable of. So get a brain and then reconsider.


Yes, IM the stupid one when you want them to continue producing a product that REDUCED THEIR COMPANY 20%

I at least want CCP to GROW - NOT - shrink.
Who's the least intelligent here?


If they had gotten WiS right from the start Eve would be at 200% current subscriptions. Not being able to leave the ship and be in a station is one of the biggest reasons I have heard from folks I knew that played eve and then left for other games. So if you want CCP to grow you want them to WiS in Eve!

Issler
Flamespar
WarRavens
#126 - 2011-10-25 00:20:59 UTC
Here is my simple fix.

CCP clarifies whether or not Incarna is dead.

There is far too much wild speculation that really isn't helping. Some players want walking in stations, others don't. Some players want more PVE, others don't. It doesn't have to be a case of either / or.
Perramas
DreddNaut
#127 - 2011-10-25 00:21:40 UTC
WiS was shown the door.

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people- Eleanor Roosevelt

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#128 - 2011-10-25 00:23:34 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Here is my simple fix.

CCP clarifies whether or not Incarna is dead.

There is far too much wild speculation that really isn't helping. Some players want walking in stations, others don't. Some players want more PVE, others don't. It doesn't have to be a case of either / or.


Yes. I agree with this one.

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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#129 - 2011-10-25 00:28:14 UTC
Qansh wrote:
Eve is about spaceships. It's not even about pretty spaceships. It's about ugly spaceships on a crappy laptop -- forever! Hilmar needs a Vision-dectomy.

And get rid of those damn NPC faces and personal stories in the Chronicles -- that's not spaceships!

Spaceships are what it's all about and anything and everything that a person does in game is -- is -- cuz he's a spaceship!

God. Get it straight.

Oh, and the game forces you to be an ass. That's the game.

Stupid other people!

My sandbox. My sand. My limits. My game.

Losers.

Ha! See you at endgame (if you can even get that far).

---

Qansh sets the whiskey bottle down and contemplates what he just wrote out in a white heat of--of sympathy or something. Nah, he says to himself -- pretty sure that he doesn't want to be that guy.


You do realize that a sandbox by definition has no end game? STO --> That way. Greet the Borg Queen!

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x

Papazoglou
Deliverance.
Arrival.
#130 - 2011-10-25 00:29:48 UTC
Walking in stations is cool no matter what your guys say =)
It seems that people on the forums all seem to have common views and unfortunately you all seem to hate Walking in Stations, Im not entirely sure why...
Yes, it does take a couple seconds to load and yes, it doesn't bring a whole lot to the game right now. But god damn it looks gorgeous and CCP really doesn't get the credit that they should for the work they have done.
In my opinion EVE is as much about the social aspect of the game as it is flying spaceships and pewpewing. This shouldn't just be dropped because some loud mouth forum warriors threaten to end their subscription because of the work being done, Im sure this an awkward position to be in for CCP when their views of the future EVE are not received well by the community to put it lightly.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#131 - 2011-10-25 00:31:03 UTC
But seriously, you want WiS to get worked on, get them to start work on WoD.
You see, theyre linked. One is the Beta program for the other, so without one, you dont have the other.

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Ranka Mei
TANoshii Incorporated
#132 - 2011-10-25 00:31:26 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Here is my simple fix.

CCP clarifies whether or not Incarna is dead.

There is far too much wild speculation that really isn't helping. Some players want walking in stations, others don't. Some players want more PVE, others don't. It doesn't have to be a case of either / or.


They'd just say something lame, like not having any immediate plans to abandon it, or some other dipsh*t. Getting a straight answer from CCP is like walking a circle in hope of getting to a straight line.

-- "All your monies AUR belong to us!" -- CCP

Shi'ki
#133 - 2011-10-25 00:32:09 UTC
Like for you OP

More WIS please.
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#134 - 2011-10-25 00:32:36 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
But seriously, you want WiS to get worked on, get them to start work on WoD.
You see, theyre linked. One is the Beta program for the other, so without one, you dont have the other.


Once again, read my previous posts on the topic. Unlike you I do not want to repeat myself forever, ok?

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x

Thomas Abernathy
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#135 - 2011-10-25 00:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Abernathy
I guess the question now is....if that 20% unsubbed.... well lets say 10% due to a heavily addicted gaming population...What would CCP's kneejerk reaction be this time? Oops

"Fighting CCD since 2139"

Qansh
Triskelion Ouroboros
#136 - 2011-10-25 00:35:01 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:
You do realize that a sandbox by definition has no end game? STO --> That way. Greet the Borg Queen!

Um, it's kind of a subtle point. No endgame means less reason to dictate other people's play-style. One's idea of über may have as much value as somebody else's idea of über.
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#137 - 2011-10-25 00:35:03 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
But seriously, you want WiS to get worked on, get them to start work on WoD.
You see, theyre linked. One is the Beta program for the other, so without one, you dont have the other.


Once again, read my previous posts on the topic. Unlike you I do not want to repeat myself forever, ok?


If you say "once again I dont repeat myself" Isnt that self defeating? Also, He puts together a good point about Incarna being linked to WoD, ignoring that isnt going to make it untrue

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!

Byteflux
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#138 - 2011-10-25 00:38:18 UTC
Andre Jean Sarpantis
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2011-10-25 00:38:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Andre Jean Sarpantis
To get this pretty straigth, they didn't abbandon WIS they just taked it on the backbone to get the loudest whiners and complainers silent for a while and give them their so loved spacehip boost, if this is done they're getting back to make Incarna / WiS working better and fixed the biggest bugs they included in the first iteration.

And to all those which say Eve is and only was a Spaceship concentrated game .......YOU ARE ALL WRONG!!!

CCP did say from begin on they wanted a completed SciFi Simulation MMO including everything Scifi related so as Ships, Stations, planets AND the freaking Avatar interaction.....IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE me read back ages to several CCP Developer posts They clearly stated EVE is supposed a complete SCIFI SIMULATION MMO not only concentrated on Spaceships alone PERIOD!!


Oh....and if you want to play a SPACESHIP game only go ahead and play the rippofs from Eve aka Black Phropecy and some others Jesus Christ!!!
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#140 - 2011-10-25 00:40:54 UTC
EVE Stig wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
But seriously, you want WiS to get worked on, get them to start work on WoD.
You see, theyre linked. One is the Beta program for the other, so without one, you dont have the other.


Once again, read my previous posts on the topic. Unlike you I do not want to repeat myself forever, ok?


If you say "once again I dont repeat myself" Isnt that self defeating? Also, He puts together a good point about Incarna being linked to WoD, ignoring that isnt going to make it untrue


I said "I do not want to repeat myself. If YOU know how the search feature works, you would see that I agree with him in a way.
But not on the "Incarna is the Devil" part of his opinion and not with the "we wreck spaceships all day, because EVE was made that complicated to just do that". If you just want to do that, there are other and better games to do it.

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x