EVE General Discussion

Given that this was done via an engineer/admin-executed command - ie: Z9PP-H was not remapped because of an error in the running code, but was remapped as part of a process specifically initiated in order to remap systems - my question is this:

Why are system states, including ship position, aggression and criminal timers, and other critical information relevant to the state of gameplay in that system, not immediately backed up as part of the remap process? Presumably, if other players had been in a small gang fight in the other systems on the same node, remapping those systems under the current system would drop their aggression timers as well.

If this had been a crash, then the failure to log an archive image of the state of the database might be understandable, but as this was a deliberately initiated process, why does that process not include an automated archiving of the state of the node for potential rollback if necessary?

I cannot post from my main -- but I believe I speak for all goons.

What worries me isn't the capitals getting out, or us losing the strategic objective in this system. What really gets under my skin is that my killboard will not reflect my pvp prowess.

I want CCP to manually adjust my killboard so that it reflects what should have happened, roughly 200-300 test carriers dying.

Well, because :CCP:

why you posting this again man ???

Hey look, two party system politics.

Butterfly effect.

It all applies to you. Miners, mission runners, LP farmers, wormholers.

We're destroying trillions upon trillions of ISK worth of ships, ammo, modules etc in this game. Implants, sov structures, consuming fuel.

All of that matters, unless the only thing you and your friends do in this game is spin ships.

Pizza was bombing Test.

401k was camping B-D after they lost their 'Nados iirc.

N3 had a 200(?) man slowcat fleet in Serpentis Prime on standby.

CCP stated 'this will never happen again.' CCP also said 'we don't stop the best content our game can deliver, giant fights that matter.' I know CCP Phantom is the mouthpiece I can read, I'm just acknowledging that the problem and onus is larger than him.

Please, detail for us exactly what steps you will take to avoid this from happening again in the future. I understand you'll probably need a meeting or two to talk about policy changes or even code changes, but we need to know. This could have just as easily gone our way for some bull **** in Tenal or 4-EP12. Neither side wants this to happen again.


Here are my humble suggestions:

1. The guy who did this, actually entered the command, gets a 2 day paid vacation. I know his job is full of stress and fuckery and this has got to keep him up at night for the next several days. I know I couldn't sleep after this.

2. Z9PP-H, E-IO0O, and 4-EP12 are constantly getting hit with timers and big giant alliance crushing fights are going to happen there for the foreseeable future. Place all 3 of these systems on their own reinforced nodes. If you don't have that many spare nodes, have the reinforcement follow the iHUB and Station timers. You have 20,000 players watching those timers and responding to them, please give them some attention to guide your server balance decisions. Though an easy counter to this suggestion is if 20k players are watching you'd think 1 of them would fill out the damn 'please reinforce this system' request form.

Next time, let's hit 3000+ in local.

... queue Roy Orbison's "Crying Over You"...