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Tonight's fleet fight in Z9PP-H

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#501 - 2013-07-06 12:21:14 UTC
Emcera wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
We’d like to ask that you keep discussions and questions relating to tonight’s fleet fight in Z9PP-H to this thread so as to keep CCP responses centralized, and to make this the go to place for questions and answers.

Running tally of CCP Dev responses to this thread after Falcon's initial post: 0

Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED !?!

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Suzuka A1
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#502 - 2013-07-06 12:30:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Suzuka A1
Lemonades wrote:
I was flying logistics on this fight in the TEST rokh fleet and it was hard to rep people.
Server performance was the worst i've ever seen. My reps would cycle down.. and kept cycling on red or stayed red for at least 4-5 cycles. It was hilarious.

+1

I was in a Guardian on the CFC side and my client's performance was by far the worst I have ever experienced, I even frapsed a couple minutes of how bad it was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQUBVPoKk3k (See the description for more info.)

Edward Pierce wrote:

Stop boasting how your game features massive player made fleet fights then proceed to crash the server whenever they're going down.

aka --> http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/06/15/eve-online/
And the sad thing is this article was released during the second week of the war. Don't boost about hours of 10% TiDi.


Also...I have yet to see a CSM response on this thread or the original thread.

Never forget the battle of Z9PP-H  What actually happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgcUwTmHY74 Battle Report: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?42836-They-Might-Be-Giants-The-Southwest&p=497626&viewfull=1#post497626
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#503 - 2013-07-06 12:30:44 UTC
Andski wrote:
Mohr Cowbell wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Well, at this point, we're out of normal business hours in Iceland (I believe it's 9:37 there now?) and while I'm not expecting 'Dear Capsuleers, this is exactly what happened, which processes were invoked, and precisely what we've already done to fix everything, YAY!', I have to admit, in a thread we were specifically asked to use so that our questions could get addressed, it's a little disappointing to not even have so much as a 'you guys have raised a number of perfectly valid questions, and the team is looking at them, dont' worry' update.

Or did someone accidentally remap the forums?

I hate to tell you this, but FA is just a meatshield for Goonswarm.

I hate to tell you this, but TEST has always been a meatshield for either Goonswarm, PL, NCdot or N3

I thought we were actually friends before :(

What is love, baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me ...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#504 - 2013-07-06 12:35:20 UTC
Suzuka A1 wrote:
Lemonades wrote:
I was flying logistics on this fight in the TEST rokh fleet and it was hard to rep people.
Server performance was the worst i've ever seen. My reps would cycle down.. and kept cycling on red or stayed red for at least 4-5 cycles. It was hilarious.

I was in a Guardian on the CFC side and my client's performance was by far the worst I have ever experienced, I even frapsed a couple minutes of how bad it was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQUBVPoKk3k (See the description for more info.)
Edward Pierce wrote:

Stop boasting how your game features massive player made fleet fights then proceed to crash the server whenever they're going down.

aka --> http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/06/15/eve-online/
And the sad thing is this article was released during the second week of the war. Don't boost about hours of 10% TiDi.

Also...I have yet to see a CSM response on this thread or the original thread.

They are AFK cloaking in this thread.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Arcin Hamir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#505 - 2013-07-06 14:04:47 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Emcera wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
We’d like to ask that you keep discussions and questions relating to tonight’s fleet fight in Z9PP-H to this thread so as to keep CCP responses centralized, and to make this the go to place for questions and answers.

Running tally of CCP Dev responses to this thread after Falcon's initial post: 0

Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED !?!


Fairly standard CCP tactic - set up one thread to let people blow of steam and then ignore it till people move on. No need for action or any response.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#506 - 2013-07-06 17:43:31 UTC
Arcin Hamir wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Emcera wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
We’d like to ask that you keep discussions and questions relating to tonight’s fleet fight in Z9PP-H to this thread so as to keep CCP responses centralized, and to make this the go to place for questions and answers.

Running tally of CCP Dev responses to this thread after Falcon's initial post: 0

Are you not entertained?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED !?!


Fairly standard CCP tactic - set up one thread to let people blow of steam and then ignore it till people move on. No need for action or any response.


THE Standard

No longer "Because of Falcon" but "Because of Ignore"

It's that or everyone but a key button pusher is off on their 4 week vacations.
Kiera Okitoshi
Doomheim
#507 - 2013-07-06 22:01:12 UTC
Of course it was CCP who came to the rescue of the test idiots who couldn't tell the difference between a railgun and a mining laser but never fear the test guys suck so much even with the help of CCP they will die soon enough it would be even funnier if they ended up like S2n XD
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#508 - 2013-07-07 01:01:01 UTC
Kiera Okitoshi wrote:
Of course it was CCP who came to the rescue of the test idiots who couldn't tell the difference between a railgun and a mining laser but never fear the test guys suck so much even with the help of CCP they will die soon enough it would be even funnier if they ended up like S2n XD

Well I guess we got some more cap kills. Some of them were PL's as well.

WAS TEST WORTH IT? 3WE2013~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#509 - 2013-07-07 10:22:48 UTC
Goddammit CCP! We need more tank on our Hulk... oh wait, wrong thread.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#510 - 2013-07-07 17:36:00 UTC
Sadly, I suspect that will get a response...
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#511 - 2013-07-07 18:02:51 UTC
All the butthurt in one thread!

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#512 - 2013-07-07 21:11:41 UTC
Epic fail. Lol

It happens. P

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#513 - 2013-07-07 22:00:48 UTC
*has a light bulb blink above his head...

You know CCP, perhaps if the poor hamster server farm did not have all those flashy graphics being used for each and every star gate jump across the universe and the Tron like effects for scanning each and every system for every player, perhaps the server would have been quite cool and stable and this potentially epic battle could have played out.

Twisted
Arrendis
TK Corp
#514 - 2013-07-07 22:44:16 UTC
Guttripper wrote:
*has a light bulb blink above his head...

You know CCP, perhaps if the poor hamster server farm did not have all those flashy graphics being used for each and every star gate jump across the universe and the Tron like effects for scanning each and every system for every player, perhaps the server would have been quite cool and stable and this potentially epic battle could have played out.

Twisted


You do realize that all of the graphics end of things is handled client-side by your computer, right? That as far as the server is concerned, there is no difference between making you wait at a loading screen and letting your home computer show you the Dr. Who tunnel? Server-side, the only thing going on is a session change.

Unless CCP's completely insane, it's the same thing for system scanning - the server tells your machine where things are, just like it always has, and your client handles the visual sweep and displaying the anomalies in space.
Levaria
Incertae Sedis
#515 - 2013-07-08 00:08:10 UTC
Will a CSM and or a Dev at least give us some sort of feedback so far? *Holds out trembling hands* Kind sir...even a crumb of a response will suffice... Seriously CSM's why do we fly your butts to Iceland, so you can Ignore topics like this? Ugh
Dorn Val
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#516 - 2013-07-08 07:24:12 UTC
Meh -crap happens. If it's not a typo then it's an FC changing his mind about tackling the bait when it's too late for you to cancel warp. Chill out folks, the mistake itself isn't the real issue...

1) There should be a better, more automated way, for nodes to be re-enforced. Since you market the game based on these big fights being possible you really should make the end user experience better CCP. TiDi was a good START -but it's not the solution...

2) Maybe it's time to look into the underlying hardware and code that makes Tranquility. I remember someone saying that the software wasn't multi-thread or multi-core capable.

Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Ditrius Bedala
BecauseICaNDoIt
#517 - 2013-07-08 14:08:13 UTC
Dorn Val wrote:
2) Maybe it's time to look into the underlying hardware and code that makes Tranquility. I remember someone saying that the software wasn't multi-thread or multi-core capable.

As software developer I can say that this will require hilarious amount of man-hours. If their server-side code was written as single-threaded code, then it's refactoring will nearly equal to writing the server from scratch. It will involve inventing new multi-threaded server architecture, resolving the problem of synchronization in multithreaded application and so on. That's that simple as you may imagine. Also, before putting newly written server into production the internal tests shall take place, which also will consume a great amount of time.

Taking all these subjects into account, I believe from economic point of view it's senseless for CPP to start processing such big amount of work.
elite god
Black Water Oasis
#518 - 2013-07-08 22:18:19 UTC
I would like to state what happened was extremly irrisponsible due to CCP interfearing with game play causing the crash happened. I understand the method they were trying to use to reinforce the node but communication failure that is being stated is someones fault. Like any orginization people who messed up should be removed from CCP itself in a very public fashion to make up for this very public blunder and set a standard for something like this not to happen again. You have damaged the reputation of the game and mostly wasted peoples time and isk. CCP will probly right this off as somewhere in the EULA agreement allows this to happen. But the truth is people are leaving eve, the number ticker use to read 60,000 now were in the 40,000+ range and that includes DUST 514 players. A incedent like this will cause more players to leave so this must be handled properly.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#519 - 2013-07-09 04:06:19 UTC
The whole of the weekend, and now another weekday, without even an acknowledgment from CCP that after they asked for questions in this thread, we've put questions in this thread.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#520 - 2013-07-10 01:54:37 UTC
Well, we're now into Wednesday in Iceland (albeit the middle of the night) and still no acknowledgment in this thread.

I wonder, if I start yelling, will there be an echo?



...cho?



...cho?



crap.