Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bah! I'd rather have the PI bay on the Iteron IV. I don't like the "needle" shape of the Itty-III and Itty-V.

Although Gallente ships aren't specifically designed as shield boats, there are a few ships that can work as shield ships, and that's more of what I was getting at with the 5th mid. Granted, you'll never see Gallente ships with 6 or more mids (outside of a recon or perhaps Navy), but that doesn't mean that 5 mids can't make a decent shield tank, especially considering that the other half of that tank is going to be a dps tank :) with all those lows filled with damage/tracking mods.

I bolded the last part because yes. Active armor tanking is a throwback to another time, and the fact that CCP is desperately holding on to it--even saddling both of its Combat BCs/Command Ships with that terrible and often-wasted bonus is just icing on a very sour cake. And then the ship that really could use the repair bonus--the Thanatos--gets screwed out of it! How is that for irony!

However, Gallente have a couple of fleet ships post-rebalance. Mega is sexy with those 8 lows. Domi does an ok job as a sniper, although if the ship has to move, the drones stay behind, so wtf. Brutix Navy is *very* nice, just to name a few. What we really need, though, is for medium rails to not suck so bad and maybe more medium-sized hulls could find a use beyond "sit at 0 and facerape." It'd be nice to have some other option that'd perhaps involve a longer-ranged weapons system (RAILS!), but that may just be my absolute love for Zealots coming out.

Still, I hold out hope that one day Gallente will not be stuck with useless bonuses in fleet situations and that their alternative weapon system can somehow be buffed so as to make them a decent, viable choice for Gallente ships but still keep them in check for Caldari--not that Caldari is dominating with rails, but with their increased optimals (generally) and more damage from a med. rails buff, it could cause problems.

I get why Gallente and Minmatar are the only ones getting specialized haulers. What I don't get is why CCP are calling it balanced.
Gallente lost the king of cargo space title by ~2000m3, so they had to be compensated by being given the best ore hauler, the best mineral hauler, and the best PI hauler?

Of course it is better if the specialized ships were of ORE or any other sort - but in this case, it is as it is.
And since these are specialized vessels in specific tasks, it is rather redundant to have every single race have the same thing. We just have to take it as it is. Unless there are more combat-orientated hulls, I doubt it is really worth complaining about balancing in terms of hauling and specialized stuff like PI jobs.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see that balance myself but it is likely too complicated.

Its balanced because it can only do that single task as opposed to the general cargo the other ships get. It is sad that some of you just don't get it. They are single task ships.

If you are fitting a Bestower to try to compete you are doing it wrong. They serve two different roles. If someone wants to be an idiot and train Amarr to V to haul ore. Let em! That is their fault.

I personally still think the Iteron V ought to be changed into a poor mans hauler. Separate 25K bay not affected by rigs everything else lower including build costs.

Interesting, I am looking forward to this rebalancing and the new Gallente ships.

sorry meant 5 turret and one utility slot.

i still think hacs need 16 slots and the ishtar 15.

if you move away from the sentries and before warping recall them they appear in distant space. in other words you do not loose controll of them. when you warp back on to the grid they then switch to regular control and and you can commence attack.

So we talk about T1 Industrials... What about ORE Industrials... ???
So the ambitious miner wants to get into an Orca but has to learn "Ore Industrials" for... ... hmm... mining in a Noctis?... or whatever... So the skill is absolute useless for a miner... What about making at least two of the "Outsider"-Iterons or at least their concepts into ORE industrials?
Maybe i'm not right, but I think the above mentioned Orca should be overhauled too... I think the most of us would exchange the maintance hangar for ore space... or at least a part of it... and the bonus should be for orehold... split the mined ore between 3 different hangars is just... unnecessary...