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Command Ship 45+ days training?!

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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#41 - 2013-06-06 18:49:15 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Alex Sinai wrote:


Thank you. Exactly what I was saying.

It should not depend on clone or anything else.

If you could fly it before, you will fly it after.

No Iffs or excuses accepted.


You have always run the risk of losing access to ships and/or equipment from being podded with an inadequate clone. Nothing in Odyssey changed that. If you could fly it before, you can fly it after referred only to one specific thing, the changing of the skill trees for the ships that were affected, and nothing else.


Well, while OP was foolish enough to get podded in a undersp'ed clone, I don't think anyone has ever lost 45 days of training off of it....Lol

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Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-06-06 18:49:54 UTC
Well you can always donate me some assets, im pore you know... iv always wanted a command ship... but never had the isk T_T
Merouk Baas
#43 - 2013-06-06 18:50:09 UTC
Right, no excuses accepted, so other than calling us idiots, what are you going to do about it, little man? You gonna quit? Stop paying CCP money? If it's not acceptable, what are you going to do? Cause they aren't changing it, no matter how much you act like a moron. So what are you going to do?

And by the way, petitioning it would have gotten you more results than this stupid thread.
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-06-06 18:50:24 UTC
Alex Sinai wrote:
How stupid idiot.

If you were able to fly it before, you will be able to fly it after. Thats it. No skill points, no clones. Either you will or you will not. All else is a scam.


And that is exactly the case. Even if you get podded. Even if you lose SP in command ships skill. You can train any skill that is injected, regardless of prerequisites. You are talking absolute nonsense and have NO freaking clue about how this game works. Please provide a screenshot with the errormessage and of your spaceship command skilltree.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-06-06 18:50:48 UTC
Oh, I see. This is a troll pretending to be a rant about a non-existent problem.

CCP - clean up on aisle this thread, please.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#46 - 2013-06-06 18:51:32 UTC
Revman Zim wrote:


That is not really what I was saying.

What I am saying is that if you are dumb enough to fly around in an out of date clone, KNOWING that you can lose SP, then you don't deserve to fly that ship in the first place.

If I had skills injected without the prereq's met, I would have been EXTRA sensitive to my clone. Since the ramifications of getting pod are magnified.

I was trying to ensure all the posters fully understood your stupidity.


And you have done a great service sir :) .

It's the OPs fault for not understanding how things work now. The FIRST thing I did was update all my toons clones , especially the ones that fly command ships and hacs.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#47 - 2013-06-06 18:53:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Alex Sinai wrote:
If you were able to fly it before, you will be able to fly it after.
…and you can.

Quote:
Thats it. No skill points, no clones. Either you will or you will not. All else is a scam.
No, it's not. The “if you could fly it before” philosophy applies to the skill switch-over and tiercide prereq reorganisation, and it is working as intended.

You're talking about something completely unrelated: skills lost when podded. Skill points and clones are very much part of that particular equation, as they have always been, and it has nothing to do with the skill reorg/switch-over. If you lose something, you lose it. However, what you're suggesting is still not how the game works.

So please provide a screenshot of the skill page of the CS in question, and a screenshot of the error message when you try to increase your CS skill.

Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Well, while OP was foolish enough to get podded in a undersp'ed clone, I don't think anyone has ever lost 45 days of training off of it....Lol
It would require a skill that takes 90 days to train and a clone that's 3 years' worth of SP too small. It certainly didn't happen to the OP, that's for sure. Lol
Alex Sinai
Doomheim
#48 - 2013-06-06 18:53:23 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Alex Sinai wrote:
How stupid idiot.

If you were able to fly it before, you will be able to fly it after. Thats it. No skill points, no clones. Either you will or you will not. All else is a scam.


And that is exactly the case. Even if you get podded. Even if you lose SP in command ships skill. You can train any skill that is injected, regardless of prerequisites. You are talking absolute nonsense and have NO freaking clue about how this game works. Please provide a screenshot with the errormessage and of your spaceship command skilltree.



Look CCP Clone, try that. And when you start losing people as in Inferno with your attempt Number Two, you will change face, name and skills.

This was dirty ****. You think we will follow 45 days of training? FRACK OFF! WE WONT. We quit. So, do it please, not with us. Enough that you dumbed off scanning and dumbed down battleships. Good. Dumb down and force to retrain, frak you.

Don't let them fly safe!
Alex Sinai
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-06-06 18:54:42 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Alex Sinai wrote:
If you were able to fly it before, you will be able to fly it after.
…and you can.

Quote:
Thats it. No skill points, no clones. Either you will or you will not. All else is a scam.
No, it's not. The “if you could fly it before” philosophy applies to the skill switch-over and tiercide prereq reorganisation, and it is working as intended.

You're talking about something completely unrelated: skills lost when podded. Skill points and clones are very much part of that particular equation, as they have always been, and it has nothing to do with the skill reorg/switch-over. If you lose something, you lose it. However, what you're suggesting is still not how the game works.

So please provide a screenshot of the skill page of the CS in question, and a screenshot of the error message when you try to increase your CS skill.


Tippa... not in this case.

Accept its either a bug or unexpected consequence. Fix it.

Don't let them fly safe!
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-06-06 18:55:17 UTC
Alex Sinai wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Alex Sinai wrote:
How stupid idiot.

If you were able to fly it before, you will be able to fly it after. Thats it. No skill points, no clones. Either you will or you will not. All else is a scam.


And that is exactly the case. Even if you get podded. Even if you lose SP in command ships skill. You can train any skill that is injected, regardless of prerequisites. You are talking absolute nonsense and have NO freaking clue about how this game works. Please provide a screenshot with the errormessage and of your spaceship command skilltree.



Look CCP Clone, try that. And when you start losing people as in Inferno with your attempt Number Two, you will change face, name and skills.

This was dirty ****. You think we will follow 45 days of training? FRACK OFF! WE WONT. We quit. So, do it please, not with us. Enough that you dumbed off scanning and dumbed down battleships. Good. Dumb down and force to retrain, frak you.


Please provide a screenshot with the errormessage and of your spaceship command skilltree. After that, please biomass and unsubscribe. You won't be missed. Any leftover assets I will gladly keep safe, goodbye!
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2013-06-06 18:55:44 UTC
Alex Sinai wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Alex Sinai wrote:
How stupid idiot.

If you were able to fly it before, you will be able to fly it after. Thats it. No skill points, no clones. Either you will or you will not. All else is a scam.


And that is exactly the case. Even if you get podded. Even if you lose SP in command ships skill. You can train any skill that is injected, regardless of prerequisites. You are talking absolute nonsense and have NO freaking clue about how this game works. Please provide a screenshot with the errormessage and of your spaceship command skilltree.



Look CCP Clone, try that. And when you start losing people as in Inferno with your attempt Number Two, you will change face, name and skills.

This was dirty ****. You think we will follow 45 days of training? FRACK OFF! WE WONT. We quit. So, do it please, not with us. Enough that you dumbed off scanning and dumbed down battleships. Good. Dumb down and force to retrain, frak you.


Then FFS, quit. Unsubscribe. Press the button! Do it! DOOOOO EEEEEET! I double-dog ******* dare you to push that button.

Otherwise you're a two-face cur who lacks the courage of his convictions.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#52 - 2013-06-06 18:55:49 UTC
Alex Sinai wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Alex Sinai wrote:
Mc Scam wrote:
Maybe you forgot to upgrade your clone and lost some crucial skills?


May be it should not be related at all?


If I lose target painter, I can't use a target painter. If you lose command ship, you can't use a command ship. How surprising...


How stupid idiot.

If you were able to fly it before, you will be able to fly it after. Thats it. No skill points, no clones. Either you will or you will not. All else is a scam.


If you can fly it now you can fly it after only apply to skill changes, not being podded with a not updated clone. This is only the mecanic working exactly as it always have. If you had gotten podded before the patch and lost the exact same SP, you would also not be able to fly it until you re-trained the lost skill. It's not a scam it's working as intended.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#53 - 2013-06-06 18:56:25 UTC
Alex Sinai wrote:
Tippa... not in this case.

Accept its either a bug or unexpected consequence. Fix it.
Prove it. Please provide a screenshot of the skill page of the CS in question, and a screenshot of the error message when you try to increase your CS skill.
Alex Sinai
Doomheim
#54 - 2013-06-06 18:57:44 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dosnix
De'Veldrin wrote:
Alex Sinai wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Alex Sinai wrote:
How stupid idiot.

If you were able to fly it before, you will be able to fly it after. Thats it. No skill points, no clones. Either you will or you will not. All else is a scam.


And that is exactly the case. Even if you get podded. Even if you lose SP in command ships skill. You can train any skill that is injected, regardless of prerequisites. You are talking absolute nonsense and have NO freaking clue about how this game works. Please provide a screenshot with the errormessage and of your spaceship command skilltree.



Look CCP Clone, try that. And when you start losing people as in Inferno with your attempt Number Two, you will change face, name and skills.

This was dirty ****. You think we will follow 45 days of training? FRACK OFF! WE WONT. We quit. So, do it please, not with us. Enough that you dumbed off scanning and dumbed down battleships. Good. Dumb down and force to retrain, frak you.


Then FFS, quit. Unsubscribe. Press the button! Do it! DOOOOO EEEEEET! I double-dog ******* dare you to push that button.

Otherwise you're a two-face cur who lacks the courage of his convictions.

Ninja Edit: Personal Attacks + Avoiding profanity filter aren´t allowed!
Fixed your post
Kind Regards
ISD Dosnix

Don't let them fly safe!
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-06-06 18:57:56 UTC
Alex Sinai wrote:

How stupid idiot.

If you were able to fly it before, you will be able to fly it after. Thats it. No skill points, no clones. Either you will or you will not. All else is a scam.


With posts like these, I'm beginning to wonder how you manage to even undock...

Skill requirements changing does not change the mechanics of skill point loss due to your own stupidity of being in an outated medclone. Deal with it or stop your mindless trolling.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-06-06 18:58:12 UTC
UKBigWolf wrote:
Roll
Have you tried to undock in it
If you did and succeeded you can fly it forever now... unless you forget to update a medical clone and get podded ofc then you might loose the ability

And I keep thinking Eve general IQ was higher than most games?

Not by your post. You gotta be the millionth person in EVE who has to spell "lose" as "loose". Amazing how 99% of the population can't get that word right...

Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#57 - 2013-06-06 18:58:45 UTC
Well, you just got 100k SP, so that takes it down to 43d

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

Alex Sinai
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-06-06 18:59:06 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Alex Sinai wrote:
Tippa... not in this case.

Accept its either a bug or unexpected consequence. Fix it.
Prove it. Please provide a screenshot of the skill page of the CS in question, and a screenshot of the error message when you try to increase your CS skill.


Tippa, i know you long enough. Troll else. They will read. These, who experienced it. They wont send screenshots. They will unsub. Welcome to Inferno bit4.

Don't let them fly safe!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#59 - 2013-06-06 18:59:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Alex Sinai wrote:
How about you suk?
How about you provide a screenshot of the skill page of the CS in question, and a screenshot of the error message when you try to increase your CS skill?

Quote:
Tippa, i know you long enough. Troll else. They will read. These, who experienced it. They wont send screenshots. They will unsub.
So in other words, nothing will happen since there is no evidence whatsoever that there is even the slightest shred of a problem.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2013-06-06 18:59:55 UTC
Alex Sinai wrote:


How about you suk?


Is "No U!!!!" the appropriate response here?

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.