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Dev Blog: EVE on Steam: Past, Present and Future

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Lelira Cirim
Doomheim
#61 - 2013-06-04 04:26:57 UTC
Musashi Date wrote:
If Gabe Newell played eve, would he be a carebear? :D

Kudos to CCP for the Steam option!

You think he doesn't already? P Bizness stratagy mang.
Gaben can cut a fool. Pirate

I'm glad to see this getting some momentum. Seems like more MMOs are reinvesting in Steam, even while they're also exploring other platforms (PWE/Arc, etc.) I'm sure it will be a good challenge to get it all working the way people want to manage multiple accounts.

Do not actively tank my patience.

Matas Kyler
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2013-06-04 08:33:27 UTC
Lord Valian wrote:
Steam is great, will there be any possibility to merge our current accounts with our Steam account?



+1

A thousand times.
Maul555
Xen Investments
#63 - 2013-06-04 12:28:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Maul555
does this mean eve online will be available on the steam box? That might just make me buy one so I can play eve from the couch without having to drag a computer into the living room and wrestle with a keyboard/mouse... It would also give an option to the console kiddies who don't like gaming at their desk or dealing with upgrading their computers and troubleshooting/all that other garbage... Of corse, if you are going to put eve on consoles, rolling out a client for the PS3/4 seems like a no-brainer too...
Serhii Komendant
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-06-04 18:12:55 UTC
I personally want to fully move my EVE client to Steam - its much more comfortable for me. Without additional fees preferably.
Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2013-06-05 01:37:34 UTC
*grumble*

Midweek Madness: 75% off EVE in Steam Store

But....not entire sure I want to buy it since I can't use anything that comes with that pack....



Shush, until you Youtube a video of you burning a $5 USD bill. Because, that's essentially what I'd be doing. None of the items in the Amarr Starter Pack are interesting..some of them I can't even transfer and use (Booster). The rest I all ready have.

I don't want to hear about how "five dollars isn't much".


I also would like to wait...in hopes that CCP eventually figures out a way to allow us to save our UI.

....apparently that's a "tuffy". (lulz)
*The 'EVE' folder in My Documents does not appear to save UI configs (window locations, window sizes, etc). I believe that folder is down in AppData. But ya...dig there when CCP could, at the very least, make a standalone program that will search out all the save locations they use.


People gonna say why should they, no other company does.

To that I say. Correct.

Because other companies either switched to server-side UI layouts (LOTRO) -OR- keep the UI layouts in a folder inside the main game folder (World of Warcraft). I've yet to play a game where the company hides the location of where the UI layout is saved.


Disclaimer: I haven't done a Settings Transfer in about 4 yrs. And at that time I didn't get the UI Config files and had to rebuild the layout...I mistakenly thought they'd be in the My Documents 'EVE' folder. Roll
Scuzzball Thealt
Chocolate Hammer
#66 - 2013-06-05 05:42:15 UTC
I just want to know now if I should just burn the 5USD to get the game on steam, or if I wait will I be able to get it on steam for free.
Eliza Shar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2013-06-05 19:30:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Eliza Shar
So when do we get to see Eve Online trading cards on Steam...?
Sevensin Koraka
Conqueror Worm Limited
#68 - 2013-06-06 01:46:37 UTC
Honestly ya shoulda kept this release until it was ready. Having plex & subscriptions for sale through steam but not letting people who already purchased the game through steam take advantage of any of these options is just irritating. Shouldn't release half-finished stuff imo, especially sucks when it's some really nice convenient new thing but it's only for new people and not your existing playerbase.
Mirel Dystoph
Perkone
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-06-06 14:41:37 UTC
Starting a new account with steam and the buddy programm is a pain in the ass if actually possible....

You've to have an account with ccp to active the buddy programm trial and when you buy the steam through steam it creates also a new account?! I don't get it how you're supposed to "add" the game time to your trial account from the steam purchase.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise." 

Shaun Klaroh
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#70 - 2013-06-06 18:34:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Shaun Klaroh
Mirel Dystoph wrote:
Starting a new account with steam and the buddy programm is a pain in the ass if actually possible....

You've to have an account with ccp to active the buddy programm trial and when you buy the steam through steam it creates also a new account?! I don't get it how you're supposed to "add" the game time to your trial account from the steam purchase.


You can't because you can't get Steam to register a new purchase to an existing account. Besides Steam Keys were never a "approved" method to activate buddy accounts for referral rewards. I've lost two or three referral months because of that technicality.

Quote:
Notice: Monthly subscription fee required after first month. Product keys will not work with existing EVE Online accounts. Subscriptions & PLEX can only be purchased by users that own the EVE Online - Starter Pack.


This stupidly includes trial accounts as well.


There's some major problems going on with this, more and more people are fleeing these purchases and going to other stores that are matching Steam's sale (that's not a huge problem for CCP), but there's also a group of people that are getting frustrated because they're getting no answers and no help with their registration problems with the impression that the are now losing subscription time due to Steam/CCP's screwups.

I can't help them because veterans aren't permitted to participate yet and this whole thing is so new that nobody has any answers. All Points Bulletin: Reloaded made it work pretty flawlessly when they started it up, I'm not sure what's making this so difficult. They are frustrating new impressionable customers here and are at a huge risk of losing not only future subscription fees from these guys (and PLEX), but at risk of generating a negative reputation in Steam Community circles.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/8500/discussions/
Cancrum Oris Andedare
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-06-08 20:29:33 UTC
This doesn't work for the Mac Steam community. When is a fix coming?
Kris Solita
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2013-06-12 21:07:26 UTC
For those with existing steam accounts who wanted to use the new features. It is possible to setup a new account through steam to purchase plex etc. Steam customer support was able to remove my old purchase of steam from my account. This does not seem to have impacted that eve account which is still active. I was then able to purchase the new starter pack and purchase the plex packages I had wanted to. Of course I've now got another account that I don't really want and had to pay $20 for but eh. Suppose if ya'll at CCP wanna be awesome you could just send me a plex :)

Obviously kind of a fringe scenario as I suspect most people don't have a decent chunk of money just sitting in steam and nothing to do with it but worked for me. Didn't have any issues making the new account was smooth as could be. Have had multiple instances of the launcher reporting steam authenication failed and having to relaunch/close steam etc before it worked again.

Anyhow all is good now, and CCP don't forget I'm happy to give you back the 30 days of gametime on this account for a plex for my other accounts :) well after i move the plex i bought anyhow.
Nobru Juniak
It's Free
#73 - 2013-07-11 13:49:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Nobru Juniak
I disagree with the following statement. I don't want to flame here, I'm just expressing my opinion here.

"CCP Spitfire at 30.05.2013 18:02 " wrote:
I already bought EVE on Steam, why can’t I use the new features?

Initially the new features will be rolled out to new users only. Once we evaluate the feedback and data from the first stage of the program, we will look at taking the next steps and adding new features to the integration. EVE Online subscription and PLEX packages on Steam are priced in the exact same way as on our own website, so all players are on equal footing regardless of the way they pay for their subscriptions.

I am from Brazil and Steam have differentiated prices for US, to adjust it to our reality. The same way CPP adjusts EVE subscription to 15 USD/EUR based at from where the player are, they do the same.
EVE subscription are 25 BRL at Steam (~ 11 USD at this date), and the US Dollar is rising astronomically here. 15 USD are 33,91 BRL! US Dollar already rised more than 10% this year, and does not seem that it will turn down so quickly. We here are afraid that it will reach 1 to 2,5 so turning EVE subscription really expensive...

Said that, PLEASE, let us pay through Steam, or if the drawback of sharing a slice of proffit with Steam is not nice, differenciate the price for us. I really like this game and have fun with it, but it is turning into an really expensive hobby. I know that it is not CCP's fault, but it would be lovely to have you guys to care about us. Even Blizzard do that for us, can you please do that too?

Hope you read it, and hope you consider it.
Theodore Giumbix
All Gates Are Green
#74 - 2013-07-14 09:12:52 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
Evelgrivion wrote:
I honestly hope Steam doesn't end up being the superior end user experience; that would feel unfair to others.


I agree absolutely. What we are doing is offering the Steam users an easier path into the game compared to the way EVE was set up on Steam before, but we are not building any "exclusive" features for that platform.

Altaieere wrote:
Can we meerge? Furthermore can we merge two eve accounts to one steam account and if we cannot do this now, when might we be able to?


Not at the moment. We want to evaluate the results of the initial implementation before making any next steps, which may take a while.

Creating a new account on Steam is free. So if there will be a "superior end user experience" on Steam anybody would have free access to it.
Second, if Steam wants money to let me merge my account I will gladly pay a PLEX just for that.


Messoroz wrote:
Downsides of Steam.

1. Disallows multiple accounts logged in at the same time from one computer. It would be disastrious if Steam was forced just because of this reason.
...

I hope sooner than later EVE will change, and we will be able to put all our chars in one single account and log in with as many chars per account we want at the same time, but not with multiple accounts at the same time. (aka to be able to log in with 2 or more chars from same account at the same time, but not with 2 or more chars all from different accounts at the same time).

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?

Lecia Barrett
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#75 - 2013-07-17 21:10:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Lecia Barrett
If only steam offered a trial account (14 days, 21 days, what ever) it would allow me to log into my existing accounts and get credit for time played and also allow my steam friends to see i am playing eve.

To me i think it is great eve is on steam but for us existing Eve users we do need a way to merge steam with our existing eve accounts. The above idea sure would be an easy fix for that...


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edit, I did not read this whole thread before posting the above and now have a question.,
How does steam launch eve? Does it not launch the eve launcher that allows you to switch between accounts and load more then one? I mean i have other games on steam and they use the existing launcher for those games. I only ask because the way ppl on here have been talking, it is like steam has its own way to launch eve that does not use the existing eve launcher.
Theodore Giumbix
All Gates Are Green
#76 - 2013-07-18 08:54:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodore Giumbix
Lecia Barrett wrote:
If only steam offered a trial account (14 days, 21 days, what ever) it would allow me to log into my existing accounts and get credit for time played and also allow my steam friends to see i am playing eve.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/8510
nvm that, seems the EVE Demo/Trial was removed from Steam?


Steam Notice wrote:
Monthly subscription fee required after first month. This product cannot be used with existing EVE Online accounts and cannot be used to upgrade trial accounts. Subscriptions & PLEX can only be purchased by users that have purchased the EVE Online Starter Pack via Steam. In order to access accounts created with the Starter Pack, the game should be launched via Steam. EVE Online API information and character transfers are currently not available for Steam accounts.

A very good reason to not buy EVE Online via Steam.

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?

Yukki Song
Architecture of Aggression
#77 - 2013-07-27 02:53:43 UTC
I just bought Eve via Steam and Steam EVE integration sucks. At least give us a way to at log in via the normal method. A CCP Alias login name would be a nice resolution. I wanted to run a fleet of 8 or more and here I am stuck with one account and I cannot even buy a normal account and transfer my Steam character to that. Log in through steam only is dumb and limiting. I figure you don't need my $120+ a month, but I can't be the only one that wanted to use multiple accounts.
Jenn en Chasteaux
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2013-07-30 22:07:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn en Chasteaux
Yeah I've gotta agree that having some kind of way to login to the normal EVE client is absolutely mandatory. I'm in the process of filing a petition to get this character transferred to a "real" account.

I have to force quit Steam because it detects the launcher is running when it has been shutdown. Not only that, but I have to have Steam running for some reason <_<
Wolf Mortalis
MyLittleDragon
#79 - 2013-08-02 11:57:39 UTC
Any rumors about adding existing EVE account to steam?
Theodore Giumbix
All Gates Are Green
#80 - 2013-08-02 13:13:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodore Giumbix
Wolf Mortalis wrote:
Any rumors about adding existing EVE account to steam?

rumors? this is an official dev thread. I think CCP is in vacation right now so I don't expect to see new "rumors" anytime soon.

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?