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Refocusing: Firing the people who deserve it

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Amsterdam Conversations
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-10-19 19:00:44 UTC
So, apparently a big majority of the 20% that got fired from CCP are the community devs. Well known names are Zymurgist and Fallout.

The CEO (or whoever) of this company decides do ruin the game's development, because money is more important than satisfied customers/developers and also better than a good, playable game.

After he realizes he ran into a wall with his head in front, he decides to fire the employees who had to deal with the shitstorm caused by the outraged community.

Usually after things like this it's the CEO going, not the employees who have nothing at all to do with this whole thing.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#2 - 2011-10-19 19:04:47 UTC
Let the community vote! Lol

Bottom 20% gets to go.

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Alara IonStorm
#3 - 2011-10-19 19:05:03 UTC
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:
Well known names are Zymurgist and Fallout.

Really? =(

That Sucks.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2011-10-19 19:05:03 UTC
actually it's never the ceo who gets fired

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2011-10-19 19:05:19 UTC
you see, the CEO is the guy writing up the list

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-10-19 19:06:11 UTC
Funny How a lot of people called this or something similar to this happening when the LOAN they owe money on came due in OCT.


I think this is a Stick a Fork in it CCP is dead moment. And incarna was clearly a SWG moment for eve.

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-10-19 19:06:22 UTC
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#8 - 2011-10-19 19:06:42 UTC
Can't fire the dudes that own the thing.

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2011-10-19 19:08:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Weaselior
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
citation needed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Citation_needed


posting skills needed

http://netforbeginners.about.com/

i'm sure there's an article on "stupid posts to avoid making" with a picture of your post

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Jashmyne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-10-19 19:08:46 UTC
Source ?
Amsterdam Conversations
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-10-19 19:09:35 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
citation needed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Citation_needed

http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?4155-ccp-focusing-on-the-eve-universe-a-ccp-announcement&p=248808&viewfull=1#post248808

If you read through the thread you'll see that Fallout has released a good-bye letter already.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-10-19 19:13:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyprus Black
Firing good people while the sh*tbags who initially caused these problems remain? Evil

Seems like things are just getting worse and worse from here. My confidence in CCP will drop significantly if it's true Zymurgist and Fallout were let go.

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Darth A30NZ
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#13 - 2011-10-19 19:13:51 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:
Well known names are Zymurgist and Fallout.

Really? =(

That Sucks.


Please say it isn't so. Tis a sad day in New Eden gents.

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Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#14 - 2011-10-19 19:15:37 UTC
I too thought that CCP management had finally grown a brain, but to fire the two people that actually tried to work with us during monoclegate, shows that maybe my faith was misguided...

And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.
Jashmyne
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-10-19 19:15:42 UTC
Wow, this sucks, this sucks alot.
Sarah Nalelmir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2011-10-19 19:16:45 UTC
http://www.neowin.net/news/eve-online-developer-ccp-announces-mass-layoffs

I hope this will give EVE / CCP a chance to re-think its priorities and what made CCP / EVE great. Ive only been playing 2 weeks so dont know much about EVE's 8 year history but CCP should stick to what makes EVE best and not get caught up in the typical MMO need to sell fluff. If you have a great product it will stand the test of time and people will want to play the game for what it is and not the stupid typical MMO crap.

CCP admits they lost track and are trying to put things right so lets give them a chance. Its only been 2 weeks but EVE has the best community out there that have been very welcoming. Lets continue to provide positive feedback and help shape this game you all know and love, and for those of us just beginning the journey !
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-10-19 19:16:58 UTC
Jashmyne wrote:
Source ?

I give you a hint... it starts with k.

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stoicfaux
#18 - 2011-10-19 19:17:48 UTC
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:

After he realizes he ran into a wall with his head in front, he decides to fire the employees who had to deal with the shitstorm caused by the outraged community.

Usually after things like this it's the CEO going, not the employees who have nothing at all to do with this whole thing.


So either hire a CEO who never makes a mistake and can predict the future in order to make perfect decisions today, or fire the CEO and quickly find a new CEO that know something about Eve and the MMO market. Or keep the devil you know and let him use his new found wisdom to develop the strategy needed to keep the rest of the company afloat and moving.

Let's be honest here. CCP was trying to be proactive instead of sitting on their laurels. They were
* trying to implement the Eve vision of an Eve that encompasses all MMO aspects from spaceships to the economy to avatars to FPS and so on,
* trying to pre-position themselves to handle the changing MMO market scene (aka microtransactions,) especially since Eve still charges a premium monthly rate in a competitive market full of free2play, freemium, etc., MMOs,
* trying to expand the company by branching out with WoD in order to avoid being completely reliant on a very old, very niche MMO in a very crowded MMO market.

You have to give CCP's management some props for trying to take the road less traveled.

Even so, I do believe Someone(™) should still be beaten with a wet noodle over the "macro-transaction" NeX store strategy. Evil

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RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-10-19 19:18:05 UTC  |  Edited by: RougeOperator
http://www.ggsgamer.com/2011/10/19/ccp-fires-staff-focuses-on-eve/


So CCP ignores eve for 2 years. The core Product paying the bills. Many people pointed out how this was a mistake.

Many many trolls said that the people bringing up the issues just didnt get it. ETC.

Incarceration hit and years of backlogged rage exploded. It was the final straw for MANY. Made it impossible for many to even play, others lost computers to graphics card meltdowns thanks to poor coding.

NGE all the way confirmed now.

Pulling back on WOD is prob the wrong move as it might have been the thing you had to get out to save your but in the long run. This is a short run solution is another bad decision.

And they fire the people they need to rebuild respect of the consumer. BRILLIANT (sarcasms if you miss it)

Hilmar needs to step down as of yesterday.


Well, CCP

So long and thanks for all the fish.

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Jim Pooley
Swiss Army Spoons
#20 - 2011-10-19 19:28:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jim Pooley
I am sorry to see anyone fired, but it is inevitable if CCP are low on cash.

Mind, you can fire Navigator though, can't stand the arrogant tit Bear
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