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That's part of the underlying issue (the following assumes a 5% tax rate being equivalent to today's prices and is using the current export tax amounts, and before the current price spike):

- Taxes on P0 are 0.10 on items that are worth about 1.00-2.00 ISK (so a 5-10% tax rate).
- P1 pays 0.76 ISK on stuff that is worth 300-500 ISK (before the price spike), or about 0.15-0.25% tax rate
- P2 pays 9 ISK and is worth 2500-4000, about a 0.22-0.36% tax rate
- P3 pays 600 ISK on stuff that sells for 25000-45000, a 1.3-2.4% rate
- P4 pays 50,000 ISK on stuff that sells for 600k to 1100k, 4.5% to 8.3% rate

P4 is going to be hit extra hard by the tax increase because its tax rates were already far about those of the other products. While P1 taxes are so low that even at 100%, a POCO can't pay for itself in less then 2-3 months. Generally, only foolish people exported P0, so I'm ignoring that.

If a 5% tax on P1 was about 5x above what we currently pay on P1 export taxes and P2 taxes were also increased about 4x, then POCOs would make a lot more economic sense for P1 harvest planets (which is predominantly what you see in lo-sec) and the P0->P2 harvest planets where people turn (2) P0 into a P2 to reduce haul volume (which is the other type of planet colony you usually see in lo-sec).

Taxes on P4 need to be dropped by about 2x before the new tax rate rolls out. (Basically, given historical prices, all tiers should be paying about a 1% tax at the 5% mark.)

Some responses to issues in general:

Blinking wallet intel: It's the corp wallet that will increase, not a player's. I don't think your average corp member's wallet icon blinks for corporate account balance changes. To gather the intel, someone with corp wallet access would have to be watching their corp wallet window. Otherwise, it makes perfect sense that you'd see the records of who accessed your CO and when. There's nothing stealthy about "docking up" a hauler at a customs office and loading up. Non-Issue.

Low-sec PI will be hard: Boo-hoo. Join a corp, stay in hisec, or man up and play the game. Low-sec is empire space that empire doesn't bother to police. It's not supposed to be easy afk income.

Prices will go up: Yep, and then more people will get into either hi-sec PI because it's easy and more profitable than before, or they'll start building low-sec COs when they become cost-effective and really reap the profits. The market will find a balance between supply and demand.

You can't change it now, we're already used to the cushy life: Get over it. Ship hit points changed. Nano-nerf happened. Minmatar guns got buffed. Cap ships are continually evolving. The game changes, adapt or die.

But everyone will leave!: This isn't a game-breaking Nex gold ammo issue, it's just CCP moving your cheese. You'll adapt or someone will take your place in the production line when the money is there to be made. Hi-sec is still "safe" if you can't swim in the deep water where the sharks are. Concord will hold your hand there and make it all better.

You mean you want additional protection besides recruiting more players, joining a corp, joining an alliance, joining a coalition, hiring mercs...? Might I also remind you that what you call "griefing" actually falls within CCP's definition of acceptable conduct.

This game has plenty of carebears who are smart enough to find a way to profit no matter what you throw at them. They will continue to put their PI products on the market (made in wormholes, nullsec and lowsec) and they'll sell for higher prices because weaker or less-organised carebears give up.

I suspect my alliance will aggressively persaude people not to drop customs offices in the systems we live in but, like any alliance, we can be stopped if you bring moar bigger gunz. Personally, I'll be lobbying for neutral entities to be allowed access to our customs offices with a sensible tax rate (after all, our own warbears will be using those planets, too).

It all depends. I run a high sec factory planet, but my harvesting planets are in a low sec border system. For me it makes sense. However, if I were to live deeper in low sec (say farther into Aridia), I'm not so sure I would travel that far to populate factories, I'd likely build one in or near system.

I agree on that.
But then... Shouldn't CCP focus on the lag monster first, especially for the fleet fights, before creating new systems to provoke fleet fights? That time dilation feature won't do the trick, I'm afraid, or won't be enough.

I confirmed this roughly on Sisi with my alt (horribly underskilled in PI). This means at 100% tax, you get a maximum of 100k/day per lowsec colony (the effective tax rate over market value should be around 4%). It takes forever to recover the POCO investment that way. Over three months with a horribly optimistic 10 colonies per planet.

Attacking a customs office in lowsec will give you GCC so anyone can shoot you, from the owning corp or otherwise.



Everyone from the owning corp may use the customs office but the inventory inside it, like PI, are stored per player.

I think folks have hit on most of the CO concerns.

For me, if 5x will be applied to grid on the planet, we'll be stripping these things fast. Right now with just a dozen people in a 0.0 system, we're seeing the resources dwindle very quickly. I can't imagine multiplying this by 5! I know, the goal is to produce more complex items on one planet and that's cool.

It's just we're seeing planets go 'dry' very quickly in 0.0 as it is today...

Gunzo

Links bandwidth, not grid.

You can do PI in npc space. YOu can also do it in unclaimed systems.