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Actually you missed my point about the null sec allaince, will "take over" a low sec cluster, they will not actually live there or PI there just collect tarriffs. They will just set up a small reserve fleet of ships so that a group of their pilots can just Warp clone there or may be just one cyno pilot and bring capitals/ super caps in, basically the fear of going head to head with them will keep their POCOs safe and they just get the free money from everyone else, the null sec ones in their own system will probaly have very low tax rates.

THey will be incontrol of a bottle neck and as everyone knows who deals in the market, the controler bottleneck makes the money. They do not have to manufacturer, or farm , or offer a service, by the might of their sword they will take the largest share.

I don't do any sort of PI, but I don't really like this:

1. BPCs should not be an LP reward. It forces people to either run incursions / join faction warfare, use an alt for one of these activities, or pay through the nose for a BPC.

2. There is nothing to prevent a large alliance from getting a lot of BPCs and spamming every planet in a system, constellation, or region. A decent upkeep amount would help to mitigate this issue.

3. This will very likely drive up already high POS fuel prices.

4. This will potentially eliminate a source of income for players in NPC corporations and small corporations.

5. Because there are no native defenses around a POCO, it's effectively a giant bullseye if it's deployed by a smaller corp.

This to me just seems to encourage people to join large alliances that will have the means to spam POCOs and the manpower to defend them, effectively eliminating the smaller corporations from the PI game.

I agree with you, its funny cause if theirs any goals here to have the efforts of the CO holder to see some monetization rewards in this as a landlord, they could only effectually ever be realized in high sec.

In fact, i would even go as far as saying they should allow CO's in high sec to have owners, but the tax rate always stays the same, just the sticker on the CO can be fought and won so someone gets to stick their hand in the cookie jar should they want to.

The problem with this feature only ever comes into play if you analyze the controls the CO owner can impose. Take the controls away and just have all CO's have a flat tax and this system might be win.

I don't disagree.... but the extreme lack of peripherial elements seems like this has been looked at as a minor update when it isn't minor at all.

Take roles for example:

There should be a specialized role for Custom's Officer under the roles normally associated with POS's -

Why?

Because there should be a clear delination between Corp POS assets and POCO's --- where POS roles in many corps is a trusted position and practically a full time job. Corps should be able to still give POCO roles to someone, probably the resident Corp PI expert that has no POS roles in the first place, without necessarily moving directly to POS roles.

This is one example of how what has been presented thus far seems 'limited' in scope vs. it's impact.

Thank you for your support on that point.

However, it is even more important to ensure/encourage that people have access to a wide range of planets through the more efficient POCO is to remove the ability to control access via standings.

This is exactly why I've continued to run for the CSM to try and make CCP consider the "little guy". The solo player, the little indy corp or alliance. Clearly someone in the CSM needs to advocating for that segement of the pilots of Eve because this is another example of how CCP just doesn't get it!

Once again CCP screws the "little guy" and continues its focus on driving us to the "end game" when there is no "end game" in a sandbox MMO with a player dirven ecconomy!

This idea make low sec even worse, ruins an activity a lot of Eve players enjoyed, risks messing up a lot of the Eve ecconomy and shows how little CCP actually accepts the nature of the players in its own game. The profit motive and alturistic nature that CCP expects to be present in the wasteland of low sec doesn't exist! The folks there are going to blow up anything not defended and drive the few remaining residents of low sec out (maybe entirely out of Eve).

CCP you don't understand stick and carrot, this idea has neither, this is marshmellow/flounder.

Here is what really scares me about this idea. It clearly has been in the works for a while, it has had resources applied and sounds close to complete. It sounds like it wasn't disucssed with the CSM (or we have another reason to worry about the CSM). This was done while CCP failed to work on other unfinished or broken content. What other things are in the "bad idea" queue CCP?

What other seriously half baked game breaking "features" have you developed instead of finishing or fixing all the other things here in the 'verse?

So to the critics that say I am just being negative here is how you fix this idea.

1. Null sec and WH's work as planned.
2. Structures have to be "serviced" every 30 days by the owners or the shields and structure drop to 0 and be single shot popped.
3. High sec taxes can rise but only after the correct numbers have been determined after real study, not just a lazy doubling.
4. Low sec CO belong to the pirate faction dominant in the system they are in. To access them you have to work out your NPC pirate issues.
5. Rockets get a lot bigger and you are allowed to drop supplies to the planet.
6. Rocket launches and orbital deliveres happen at the launch facilities, not the command center.
7. I can hack a CO and steal whats inside in WH and Null, I can in low sec but I have to fight off an NPC pirate spawn to do it.

Do that and I think I can endorse your product or service.

Issler

Based on what I have understood from CCP Omen thus far, I'm beginning to wonder if it might not just be better to set a universal tarif setting and intentionally dispense with standings?

Reason: If the intention is to maintain economic productivity while also increasing player interaction, then removing standings settings eliminates policization of low sec poco's (and in fact perhaps there should be POCO variations similar to scan probes [ie general vs. combat])

But if the intention is politicization, then NBSI rules will impact economic productivity in low sec regions. The Strategic hybrid privitization of low sec is concerning given the plan to wipe out all NPC-CO's... and I'm still wrestling with why this wasn't implemented this way from the beginning...

Talk about a shell game of planetary proportions! Now you see it, now you don't...

Confirming that this is a bag of crap

I'd like to think that there would be lots of folks like you that would give it a try. I have to say unless you have a pretty big combat fleet that can be on 23/7 in the low sec where I live your CO will be shot to bits every day. We have standing 20+ ship roaming pirate fleets as a standard part of life here and they are always looking for something to shoot. Most of the time they never even loot what they kill, they just like to 'splode' stuff.

Issler

Issler has it right and probably get my vote for the next CSM - Probably because I'm a lazy drunk who never sees anything through

I PI in low on two characters and normallty turn over 450m isk per month which isn't great and really isn't worth the time, effort and bit of danger flying around 0.4 and 0.3 systems. I can earn the same amount in a few hours of incursions or 30 level 4s (made up stats ) but I do it as it is something different and lets me whizz around in my Covert Crane annoying the local .

Will I set up my own floating bullseye? It's really not worth the ISK
Will I defend it if attacked? It's not worth it.
Will I pay someone else tax to use one belonging to them? Maybe, depends on the rate.

Maybe this is a good thing as I can finally move from my 0.5 home and explore a bit, maybe I would have given it up when Dust allowed people to attack my command centres, maybe.

Eve changes and it may change for the better but for me, this time, I think not.

Hopefully this is not set in stone as it will be -2 targets for lowsec warriors to chase and more high sec for me