Science & Industry

If they weren't profitable, nobody would have them. Used correctly, they are extremely profitable.

However, putting up a POS simply because you just want one will make for a money pit.

They are a means to an end. Unless there is some activity you want to engage in, but cannot do so efficiently without a POS, there's no good reason to put one up.

What does he want to do with a POS?

Since you said you're both noobs, I'm betting that no such plan exists. Ballpark figure, a large POS will cost about 400 million a month in fuel. Half that for a medium, half again for a small. That's what you will need to generate (that you could not otherwise generate WITHOUT the POS - the distinction is important) for it to break even.

for the most part they can be profitable if your grabbing the correct moon mats it may be a slight profit per month after fuel and such

if he is insistent on doing this as a passive income tell him to start google-ing info
its fairly simple process once you know what your doing but start up cost are expensive and then he has to pay to get it through low/null or move it himself and risk locing all his investment

if he wants to pay look into Black Frog Logistics

good luck

I wonder why hes saying he cant find one that isnt booked for weeks?
Anyways thanks for helping me out appreciate it.

only thing i know of with 40 day waiting periods in HS are research slots if the manufacturing slots are filled up in a certain system move a few jumps out chance are he is looking in a high traffic area like a t rade hub

if research slots and the long wait area PITA he can move BPOs to low or join a research corp/alliance outfit that charges to use slots

Message me if you want to know more

also REMOVE and CSPA charges

Oh, I totally missed the bit about moon-mining. Some notes on that:

-Can only be done in low-sec or null.
-Any moon worth a damn is probably already occupied.
-In the event that you find an unoccupied moon worth a damn, someone will probably be along to kick down your sandcastle in short order, so it better be more than just the two of you.

Most of the really common moon materials are barely worth mining even to defray the cost of fuel.

Haulie has it right like i said it is risky for new pilots without an established group behind them to assist with the eventual

STWH (Shite that Will Happen)

Yeah its research I need, reason I need a pos is Ive pretty much maxed everything in can in mining and trading and I cant really go anywhere now. Can make a lot just minging trading minerals and manufacturing at the station we're at but Ive basicly hit a wall as to what I can do without a pos basicly.

Oh this is the buddy I was talking about.
He knows more about this stuff than I do so thanks again and maybe he can ask more direct questions than I could.

Hi mander can u remove ur CSPA charges so i can email u

Well, you're gonna need to have a CORPORATE standing with the faction (unmodified by skills) of at least 5.00 to anchor a tower. Then you have to drop about 1-1.5 bil for the POS itself (assuming a large tower, plus fittings, plus 1-2 months fuel), then keep the POS cranking enough to make the per-slot cost worth it.

Unless you have that many mfg and research slots that you're needing to use (something like 30-40), the POS is going to be a net loss every month. Depending on how many things you need researched, you might be better off contacting a research service, or seeing about getting pre-researched prints, or just look a few systems away (you can do this in the S&I window:

Installations (tab)
Activity - Material Research (or whatever)
Location - Stations
Range - Current Region
Type - Public

This'll show all the stations that have slots. You'll have to do a little research on WHERE the station is (e.g. if it's 6 jumps into low, that's probably a bad station to use), but you should be able to find slots pretty readily. Lowsec systems have some dangers, but those can be mitigated pretty easily.