Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is not true of Large weapon system, and so the change has a real impact on the the existing payer base, looking at 2-3 months of training to gain 2 new heavy weapon systems is a big deal.
That translates to on June-6th we will loose a viable Battleship, and then have to debate the merits of training to fly the new ship well.

The changes to Lasers have soffened this a good deal, but it is still a real issue, that seems to be absent from the planing at CCP.

I thank CCP Rise for finally realizing the Large Energy Turret and Amarr BS lineup relationship is completely broken. The changes Rise posted aren't close to being enough to fix the problem though and I think we'll see that when they hit SISI. I took this info from Kethry Avenger in the Large Energy Turrets thread, so I thank him for the work.

with all level 5 skills

T2 1400's on the new Mael use 98% of the grid, leaving 510 pg to do something with.

The new T2 Tachs on the new Abaddon use 102% of the grid, leaving -480 pg with.

Where is there any advantage of T2 Tach's in this situation? The Abaddon will REQUIRE a cap booster to even be playable in this situation and we're going to require a PG module/rig to even fit them. Now the Abaddon is down 2 module slots and can't pick his damage type versus the Mael who doesn't need ANY cap. You'd be an idiot to fly the Abaddon in this situation.

If you're running missions or PvP and you want an Active tank in this scenario, FORGET ABOUT IT. . To be comparable to active shield tanking, you need 2 armor reppers. T2 Armor Repper requires 2070 pg AND require even more Cap that you don't have on an Abaddon. Now the Abaddon is down another 2 modules for PG and cap, while the Mael shield tanks and just needs the one repper. Again, why take the sniper Abaddon?

Why fly Amarr at all with anything but Scorch? Does anyone at CCP think this scenario is not accurate and acceptable at all?

apparently Fozzie was running level 4s fine before they adjusts pulse/beam lasers.

Dual Heavy Beam Laser? Mega Beam Laser?

Do a comparison of the Mega Beam and the Tachyon. They are not that far apart in performance, that said, one does pay a premium in terms of fitting for the extra 10% range/dps and ~50% alpha of Tachyons .. with sniping no longer valid in blob love fests and BS being replaced by much faster/nimbler tier3 BCs at ranges close to or in excess of 100km, all you need is Scorch .. Apoc needs just 2 or three mods to be able to reach 100km, beyond that you have MJD's and Probes to nail the enemy.

So, enough with the Tachyon nonsense. It became obsolete years ago when range option was removed and alpha was introduced .. if the problem is the Oracles ability to use them then address that, has nothing to do with the BS line .. go to the attack BC thread and ask for them to be hit alot harder than proposed. Focus man, focus!

Seeing as level 4s are endgame content I suppose that's a perfect metric for deciding how good a change is. I bow to your superior wisdom.