Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Look, I don't even what this "oversized" thing is or why it only applies to Amarr's weapons, I'm comparing Amarr's highest DPS T2 beam to Minmitar and other race's highest T2 beam equivalent. The other races have no problem fitting their 8 turret ships with theirs, Amarr's can't physically fit them even with the latest changes, let alone fire them without killing cap and wasting modules that no other race has to waste. This is broken.

Drone boat = -1 slot. You see the same with the Dominix, Vexor etc.

But then it wouldn't be a drone boat =/

Which some people do want. I think the Armageddon is pretty set in stone, unless something major happens when they test it in Sisi.

Or what? The absolute worst you could do is unsubscribe and demand a refund from the credit card company. Plenty of people want more versatility from the Amarr lineup, and at least CCP is trying to change things for the better. Or at least not amplify the problem.

Offer up suggestions. You want the Armageddon to shoot lasers- fine. Then add your name to the list of people who would swap the Armageddon and Abaddon hulls (I like that idea, as said, the Abaddon LOOKS more like drone ship).

Or do you want to just have an all around brawler for lowsec that uses lasers? I think the Abaddon could go a long ways towards fulfilling that role better by replacing the laser damage with a 5% RoF increase. It buffs the damage slightly, but even with the new cap changes, increases the cap use by 23% (or so- I'm bad at math). Bricks don't do a whole lot of good if they don't have cap, and it would mean more cap transfers on Guardians, and less armor repair. Or less tank on the Abaddon.

Offer constructive criticism please- saying "Screw you CCP, and your mothers, and your fathers" is a good way to either get ignored, or, if enough people chant it together, get CCP to stop changing things entirely. Please, I understand it's an emotion subject (lol, internet spaceships are emotional) but can you stop throwing a tantrum for five minutes and think of a WAY to get the Armageddon back, even if it's not exactly as it was? Because as beautiful as it may have been, things will always change.

But that is only for when the changes are entered in game, and despite the pleas and requests from the player-base that these changes are fundamentally broken, perhaps a more physical request (letter) would be needed.

It's a well known fact, that CCP have deaf ears. I'm actually wondering, why I ever bothering to defend the 10 years of EVE history.

Wait, I've found a perfect quote from the previous similar thread, that was came about 4 years ago, I recall.

Post from your main, or STFU.

It would be a good idea, if you refrained from personal insults, first. You gather what you sow.

No, I will not reconsider. I care less about communication skills of a person, who have apparent issues with logic and basic math.

My argument didn't changed, but I see no reason to repeat it 10 times in a row. Especially since we got so much developer attention to our plea. (I say "we", because, apparently, I have support from at least 3 other people in this topic. And one more asked, if we share similar ground, but in the end, we came to conclusion to agree to disagree.)

Perhaps, previous posts wasn't clear, let me make a short recap.
My personal issues with proposed chages, in no particular order:
* Assigning scapegoats just because you don't understand the problem, which tiericide supposed to not turn into a different problem, but actually fix, is stupid.
* Throwing ten years of backstory, lore, novels out of the window will lead to community disappointment at the very least.
* We already have T1 sucker ship in the battleship line. That's an argument separate from lore perspective.
* The current +RoF main bonus of Armageddon is more appropriate for Attack BS, than the Abaddon's +Dmg - it is better balanced with leveling, doesn't change your damage, only shift it towards initial burst. Which, I believe, creates an interesting diversity in ship fittings throughout the path from Amarr BS I to Amarr BS V. While flat +Dmg bonus is just a boring power creep, which CCP is proclaimed to be against. Not seems like they are holding their word very tight.
* Apocalypse can be debated back and forth, as long as it's range bonus is there. I'll just mention it here for completeness.
* Abaddon doesn't even LOOK like it can swoop around, on MWD or angel's wings - it's just a gold(not even gold anymore, since they changed to these "shaders", it's just bland sandstone color) brick. For it's defence, I can only say that it, apparently, have launch bays, which other Amarr BS seems to be lacking. Also, overall "fat" look suggests enough internal space to store vast amount of drones.

As you can see, I disagree from many points of view, and lore have no less weight, than any other. Just because you want changes for the sake of changes, doesn't mean, that other people may not have their own reasons to disagree with you.
I'm fine with most of the proposed changes. In spirit.
The problem is the choice of hulls, fist, and assignment of the bonuses, second.