Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ive no idea what this kind of balance is based upon but I dont like it, its almost like CCP dont know where they want the game to go. Tracking on the apoc? really?

Thanks, missed that.

Fixed.

Oh, and fortunately you can still use your plates and lasers.

Nah. Stop the damn nerfbat or we'll all be flying huge frigates.
Boost lasers.

The biggest problem I have with this change, then, is this: They need to do both at once.

What are Amarrians supposed to do in the meantime? Our ISK income will go away, because the bread-and-butter ships will lose. We can't fire guns with no cap.
Amarr ships lose in PvP because well... can't fire guns.

If these changes come with a laser revamp, I can deal with it. Without something being done with lasers, Amarr ships lose all around.

BTW: why in the hell do they seem to be trying to make all of the ships *smaller*? It is widening gaps between the higher end ships while taking EHP down for the rest.

I dunno.... I just get the feeling they're trying to homogenize everything so its all the same. I didn't play EvE so that I'd feel like I'm playing World of (seriously? you edit the w word for fap?). Distinction between the Empires has always been how things worked.

Want bricks with lasers? Amarr Victor!
Want Drones? Fly Gallente
Missiles (that don't miss?) Fly caldari
All rounder that has a way to handle most anything / speed? fly with the dirty minmater..

While the Apoc will still be popular for mission runners that like to keep their range from the NPC's (now with increased tracking) it will need to be fit differently... and yes it could use some cap love... the Armageddon will end up being a great PVE ship as well. You will, however, need to learn the tactics necessary to use drones without getting them eaten.

... and before you say it no, NOS and Neuts are not useless against NPC's.

I disagree with the last statement partially. The NOS is somewhat useful, but only as a means to keep your guns firing/reps going.

The Neut is ABOSULTELY useless in PvE. Rats don't have a finite cap. I spent my first 4 months wondering why I couldn't stop sanshas from shooting/repping/etc till someone explained this to me.

couldnt have said it better myself

It's called Abaddon.

You might want to have talk with them then.
While it is true that NPC's do not have cap to drain in the same sense that player ships do, to simulate this effect an NPC's ability to tank damage is reduced when being Neuted. CCP implimented this change a few years ago... at the same time they introduced a small cap pool for your NOS to be able to draw upon.

Sadly though, they will *have* to reduce cap usable on lasers, because they've been slowly but surely lowering the available cap that we had to work with.

And yes, I agree about the diversity of the game being one of the reasons I started playing again. When I first started playing I was frustrated with the 'learning skills' and being useless for onths till that was done, then finally got into interceptors and was fairly happy but hated the diversity. I left and played other games. Over the years playing other games where basically everything is the same, I got tired of it. I wanted diversity, niche play styles, and such. So I came back and went for Amarr because they (used to be) one of the better sniping races, and I wanted to be self-sufficient fairly quickly (didn't want to fire ISK to make ISK), only to find that lasers have been nerfed to oblivion in PvP (cant change damage types, which is why we used to have better tracking and range on lasers), PvE is kinda OK, so I can fuel my smaller ship losses running my Apoc in Anoms and proper belt chaining.

I'm getting tired of the homogenization of the races. Each race has strengths and weaknesses.

If the devs want this to be World of (the wa** word for fap) then they need to just say it now so I can stop paying them.