Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Until Paladin and Nightmare are rebalanced. Paladin will become shield tanked battleship with blasters and Nightmare will be new pirate drone boat, cause why not.


Sorry, what kind of behaviour are you talking about . That is first.

and

second: "If you are a player you give the idea that you might be dev even you do not say it it seems rather obvious."
where did you get that idea?

Well, I´ve been testing the geddon in Duality, if you want more than 120ehp (and you want it, disruption ship with 450 meters of sig rad needs all the tank it can get) and 7 neuts you need 2 ancillary or one ancillary and one Reactor Control Unit II, besides that with a cargo full of cap charges ship is going to work less than 4 minutes (assuming you have 2 large Cap Boosters), after 3 minutes and a half you are sitting there with your drones. Also dps, mobility and agility is terribad (no surprise).

So yes the new armageddon its in the best place it can be for Odyssey, thanks god CCP heard the player´s complains about the old one and solved the problem because we needed this change.

Sorry my sarcasm from text o-meter is broken, are you being sarcastic? Having to fit 2 PG mods and only running for 4 minutes sounds like all around bad news for me.

Save it for the singularity feedback thread :) Hopefully they'll actually read that one.

In my quest to bring holy fire to the heretic and the heathen it occurred to me that sometimes one has to look outside of their observable box in order to see a part of the greater divine plan in order to make sense of a world in which God appears to have fallen into a fit of madness. I think we would all agree that the traditional role of the battleship in high sec is ending with this re-balance as they simply are not cut out for it anymore.

The design team has made battleships into vessels comparable to battle cruisers in firepower with larger tanks yet too little cap to sustain fire for long durations. This seems to pan out across racial lines with only a couple of curious exceptions that might be oriented toward gang play. Then, could they be re-balancing battleships into the “pure over all niche” of being just solid null sec (and sometimes low sec) blob fleet runners?

Maybe we are simply NOT supposed to be using the re-balanced and “re-niched” battleships for level 4 missions and other traditional tasks in high sec when ships like the new naval harbinger come with a near battleship grade tank, ample firepower, and enough sustainable cap once skilled to do it well? They now fill that role and you could argue that it cuts down on the needed skill time for a rookie to earn good ISK off of missions. You only have to worry over battleship skills to blob. It’s a null ship. A death of the battleship’s true usefulness in high security space.

In such case the real question becomes, will people accept the new roles for battleships and the death of the old ones? The ships are actually fine for blob warfare.

I’d almost call it a troll of null and high. The objective of the re-balance wasn’t made clear limiting useful feedback they will care about and angering many looking at battleships from a traditional role viewpoint here in thread. With the upcoming changes in Odyssey null will need for industry. Care bear Raven runners will be skilled for null play. It’s kind of crazy like some attempt to graduate the player base into new areas when they don’t want to go and those there don’t want them coming too.

the fact that fully fitted in a geddon with NO T2 guns or repper and only having 1700 PG left means a great deal of peopl are going to be pissed

BTW I dont want to act like a troll but the Abbadon can fit 8 large neuts + 3 cap boosters + MWD + 247ehp without a single fitting module.

Or, you can mount 6 heavy neuts, a full tank, and enough cap rechragers and power relays to be cap-stable running three of the neuts. I'm sure the 2min 23s running all six will be enough to neut out 2-3 ships that running three on will be able to hold down.

Of course this leaves you with your drones for DPS, but if you're running that many neuts, DPS is incidental to your reason for being on the field (and ~400 DPS without drone modules is pretty nice 'free' DPS).

Hah I see. So, if you do not care to answer those questions, I have only one thing to say to you:
Can I have your stuff?



I might went a little bit too far in post 2552, and for that I'm sorry.

This thread is on bloody page 129, there were a ton of good ideas/feedback and then some from Apostrof Ahashion; Tonto Auri; Pelea Ming; Naso Aya; Zimmy Zeta and much, much more others. imho Arline Kley's post 861 with Geddon idea is very interesting, Marlona Sky idea about role bonus is pure awesome.

So it's all up to Rise to collect all those ideas/feedback and make a decision or leave this new lazy balance as is.


H6 M5 L7 is a Domi slot layout.



Hells bells, lasers are you serious?!
No one will fit lasers on GedDomi, if people will fit weapons it would be projectiles or rockets.

I see your point, but don't you think that having 2 almost identical ships is a bit excessive.