Player Features and Ideas Discussion

To make up for this, you should up the optimal for artillery turrets by 20%.

Naomi Knight: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Naomi+Knight

For a moment I thought I might just explain you, step by step, how it ruins shield tanked AC ships and scram kite AC ships... then I saw ur BC profile.

I wont bother - go kill something, anything, learn this game, then youre welcome to have an opinion on fittings and PvP balance.

Till then, keep trolling son.

If you'de like to be schooled about TE mechanics and how this 33% nerf ruins above fits, just look me up ingame. I don't mind helping noobobs.


(And if youre posting with an alt, then stop failing and post with your main)

Maybe you guys need these,

Tracking Enhancer Rebalancing

Remote Sensor Booster Balancing

School me, most of those ships you listed lose under 3km falloff and 1km optimal. Tell me how that massive loss in range makes those ships no longer viable. Tell me how they've died.

Use actual numbers, show me what the actual number differences are and then tell me how that ruins those fits.


I'll wait right here while you do the math on your fits., or you can post them and I can do the math for you, then we can talk it over.

So CCP want to make it harder to insta lock people at gates, by reducing the scan res bonus on remote sensor boosters. Genius!

... Oh wait, what's stopping these gate camping fleets from using more remote sebo's to compensate?

What you should be doing is making all T2 modules better than the meta 4 variants. It's ridiculous that many of the meta modules in game have less fitting requirements but are just as strong as their T2 variants.

Stacking penalties

This.

I remember my jaw dropping when TE's got boosted to the level they're at now and thinking it wouldn't be long until they got nerfed back into balance. That was what, about 4 years back when Minnie guns sucked and overnight became Winmatar.

I guess it was long in coming, but better late than never.

You should post at which range they have the same DPS.

Also, why are you whining? It's a nerf, it's supposed to be like this. And can you honestly tell me that you have perfect control when orbiting, staying at exactly 22km at all times?

Sure , but 4 years is not a massive amount of time in comparison to the 10 years the game has been runing and in that time we have seen quite a shift away from BS's being the sole workhorse to include things like AHAC/tengu fleets. I remember being in massive sniper apoc/mega double-doomsday tanked BS fleets - this was before projectile weapons were buffed. For years armor tanking was the preferred option for large fleets, and if it appeared I was saying that shield tanking was currently obsolete then I have not explained myself.

My point was that we are seeing a trend to buff armor fleets - their main disadvantages were that reps at the end of the cycle were ****** under pre-tidi lag which has now been fixed and overall armor reps are more efficient. The agility buff has significantly reduced the agility advantage shield tanked BS's had, and the effective devaluing of free lowslots with this nerf starts to tip the scales in favor of armor taning as a mainline doctrine. Both CFC and HBC are switching to Techfleet/foxcats as a main fleet comp - both of which ar armor tanked.

So no - I'm not bitching about this nerf - as your previous posts showed, this is not a massive nerf and more of a refocusing, I was really just trying to get clarification on CCPs opinion of the shield/armor tanking choice atm - is it considered to be fair, is one over powered and is there an internal decision to pull one into line withthe other - especially since the uniquness between the two systems is starting to be blurred.

CCP have stated on several occasions that they believe that Shield tanking is a bit skewed and too strong at the moment and have been taking steps to bring armor tanking back in line.