Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This.
CCP you are dumbing down the game. May I ask why?

Remote sebos are used for countering Sensor damping wich is OP at the moment and with the remote sebo neft you are making them even more powerfull.

It would have made a lot more sense to rebalance the modules before rebalancing the ships , rather than the other way around.

I seriously f'n hated reading this post.

It's not TE's that are the problem it's the kiting meta. And I'm sorry, but everytime you whack Minnie pilots in the face like this in the name of balance it actually hurts that I spent 30 days training falloff 5 because there is now no significant reason without TE's to even try fly like that.

In a fair and equal engagement pretty much every Minnie boat dies horrible deaths to Caldari boats. Every single one of em. If you keep going at this rate there will be no reason whatsoever to fly anything but Caldari in pvp.

Or is that the plan? All hail the DraekTengu OVerlords?

Hallowed be thy payload?

I mean how quickly can I sell my Wolves, Ruppies etc etc now.

Fozzie the idea is surely balance, not periodic promotion of one race significantly above others.

I was just thinking of writing a treatise on why low slots are more valuable than mid slots in a PvP ship.

Many people get this backwards because there are two modules that are basically required in PvP that are mid slot items(prop mod and point), while there are basically no "required" low slot items, but I say that low slots are more valuable because every other mid slot module provides only slight bonuses in combat while you can add 6-8 low slot modules which all really effect how well the ship performs.

This is evidenced in most popular fits, and is probably most clear in the battlecruiser lineup. The hurricane is most commonly a shield tanking ship, despite its 7/4/6 slot configuration, This is because it uses all of its low slots for non tank applications and still gets to fit the 2 "required" mid slots. Nobody in their right mind would armor tank a ship with a 7/6/4 slot configuration unless they had bonused mid slots or a special role like the falcon, and even if you could fit a good tank with four slots, what would you put in the 4 free mids? a cap booster is probably the third most useful mid, and then what? two random jammers? maybe a web if you need to/can get that close?

even the Brutix and the Hyperion, both of which have armor tanking bonuses, commonly field a shield tank + damage mods.
I even have a dominix shield fit because it does insanity damage, but nobody would ever think of armor tanking a Maelstrom.

This is a problem for small gang PvPers, but scales up even worse. In large fleets, you have dedicated tackle and dedicated e-war reducing the need for tackle mods in your general fleet.

TL;DR
lows are more valuable than mids because there are more combat effecting low slot modules; the TE nerf changes that.

How about you stop fitting short range weapons if you don't want to fight at short range.

Are you kidding me? 2-4 km on small ships and 4-8 on bigger - you said is this long range? After this path it will more deplorably...

if you dont want to get that close, why fit blasters?

I don't really care about the RSB change, doesn't really impact anything at all. Just means the ***** ships pirates use are now fitted with a couple extra RSBs. So whatevs



By who? I've never heard this?



Not really man. Minmatar has dominance for a couple of reasons, in battleship fleet warfare it's because of the Artillery buff. In Cruiser BC it's because they're kitey in nature and are fast - aka they run away the easiest which is the preferred tactic of choice for much of EVE. (The cynabal and vaga get dumpstered pretty hard these days so you can expect them to run away)

Really there's only a few Minmatar ships that are 'dominant' in recent years. Tornado, Cane, Fleet Stabber, Tempest, Mach and Vargur if we count tournies.

Tornado is because of the Alpha. Cane is because it was the fastest BC and you could shield or armor tank it and the neuts helped. Fleet stabber is because it is quite versatile, tanky or range, sig or buffer or rep fit. Tempest is just a big pre nerf hurricane, always been decent. Mach is most expensive non ~unique~ sub cap there is and it's whole bonus is to give ridiculous falloffs. Kinda seems fair to me.



Low slots are always valuable because they affect your damage output and potential tank, always. Mid slots don't always affect your damage output because they are normally reserved for a shield tank or ewar/tackle. In gangs less tackle per ship is needed which gives more weight to low slots because if you have the enemy tackled well, next step is deeps.

but low slots are competitive real estate, you have to decide whether you want to add a 3rd or heck even a 4th damage mod or double up or triple up on TEs. but if you do fit that many damage mods and TEs, you might leave less room for fitting mods or speed mods or cap mods, or tank mods. All these things affect your ability to live.

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Anyway you say you want to redress the minmatar 'dominance' but I don't really see that, I just see it making the more kitey ones (most of these are pretty sucky a la vaga cynabal) do a bit less dps.

To me this seems more like a nerf to the tier 3 bcs, but going about it in a way that it affects every ship rather than the ones that need it. (and they do need it because **** they do EVERYTHING)

Also I wrote this at 6am so whatevs yo