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Fon Revedhort for CSM 8 - PvP for PvPers and those with a clue

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Reppyk
The Black Shell
#61 - 2013-03-28 14:25:44 UTC
I'm a bit torn...

That manifesto was excellent, the best of all, and I deeply think that with Fon's help in the CSM, EVE would be a better place.
On the other hand, as a scientist, I cannot stand for any kind of racism idea, and supporting someone that is just wrong on so many subjects is just unbearable.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

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Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2013-03-28 14:46:56 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics?


Remember, the only reason anyone knows about his neonazism is because he's told us. He uses neonazi music in his PVP videos, he's quoted David Duke, he's made literal allusions to human races "not being equal", all on these forums. It wasn't any kind of creepy digi-level internet detectiving that unearthed this.

So why does this matter? We're electing a group of people who come from all corners of the planet (potentially, anyway). Different ethnicities, religions, nationality, all of that good stuff. So now we have Fon, an open neo-nazi who has PROVEN that he cannot keep his views separate from Eve Online as demonstrated above. That alone is enough reason for it to matter, and matter greatly.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2013-03-28 14:51:38 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics?

i don't know how well do you think an unrepentant racist neonazi will get along with anything other than a lily-white csm and represent eve to the wider world
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#64 - 2013-03-28 14:53:40 UTC
Capqu wrote:
If you want a no BS candidate, Fon's your man.

+3 votes from me.

does he have his certificate of racial purity from black or semitic ancestry? where's the racial purity certificate
Frying Doom
#65 - 2013-03-28 14:59:33 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics?

i don't know how well do you think an unrepentant racist neonazi will get along with anything other than a lily-white csm and represent eve to the wider world

Frankly I have no idea but I do not believe that someones political views should prevent them from serving on a player elected council in a game.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2013-03-28 15:02:38 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Frankly I have no idea but I do not believe that someones political views should prevent them from serving on a player elected council in a game.


Neonazism is quite a bit bigger than a political view. You realize that, right?

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#67 - 2013-03-28 15:09:41 UTC
i think he's suggesting ccp should ban people from political parties who conducted a program of industrial murder to kill around twelve milion people, also people who openly espouse the principle that other races are inferior
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#68 - 2013-03-28 15:11:56 UTC
its just me but i think that you could have figured out he was talking about the program of industrialized murder known as "the holocaust" from the fact his post specifically referenced the holocaust and that would have stopped you from making a very stupid post equating the nazi party to parties that have never conducted programs of industrialized murder to kill twelve million people
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#69 - 2013-03-28 15:13:48 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics?

i don't know how well do you think an unrepentant racist neonazi will get along with anything other than a lily-white csm and represent eve to the wider world

Frankly I have no idea but I do not believe that someones political views should prevent them from serving on a player elected council in a game.

You realise this isn't like voting for Ron Paul, right? You know what views he is saying were good, right?

He is saying that a guy who killed 6million+ non-whites (Jews were not the only targeted group) HAD THE RIGHT IDEA. He quotes David Duke, leader of the Ku Klux Klan, who thinks that hanging black people from trees is a fun Saturday night, as a role model.

If for some reason, some lapse of all sanity, you think allowing this sack of human excrement a mouth-piece is a good idea, you may want to note that in an interview on his CSM candidacy he wouldn't give a straight answer on whether he would respect the opinions of non-whites on the CSM, using excuses like "I would respect them ingame" and "Sorry I don't know English".

Yeah, the guy who wrote a 3-full-length-post OP in this thread can't understand English.

Stop defending these people.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#70 - 2013-03-28 15:15:49 UTC
Also he has repeatedly made his "views" relevant to in-game beliefs on these forums, and did so repeatedly until CCP removed them.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#71 - 2013-03-28 15:31:55 UTC
you probably can figure out that neonazi parties are not protected from employers discriminating against them under EU law because it's a criminal offense to be a member of the party or espouse its views in most european countries

good work captain laws
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#72 - 2013-03-28 15:33:31 UTC
you're actively defending genocide as no worse than people dying as a result of a war

genocide doesn't "suck", bad posting "sucks" genocide is "an unforgivable crime against humanity"
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#73 - 2013-03-28 15:36:34 UTC
Frying Doom,

If you can't see the difference between a war that was started to attempt to liberate a country from a dictator (and people dying in the process) and a dictator who wanted to kill people to kill people on a mass scale, then I don't know what to tell you.

I might point out the irony here is that the Iraq war was started to release a country from a dictator who had performed acts of genocide in the past, but I think it would be lost on you.

You are unbelievably stupid.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#74 - 2013-03-28 15:39:17 UTC
"Look, it doesn't matter if the guy literally thinks genocide is OK and we should all probably get back to doing that ASAP, its wrong to discriminate"

- Frying Doom, 2013

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2013-03-28 15:45:24 UTC
You know, Frying Doom, at this point you should step back and realize that you've given more defense to an avowed neonazi than to a guy who didn't update a wiki 2 years ago.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#76 - 2013-03-28 15:46:15 UTC
What's this nazi thing?

Fon, are you a neo-Nazi?

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Father Snuggles
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2013-03-28 15:49:02 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Cura Ursus
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Can we get back to the issue at hand, which is mocking the efforts of a CSM candidate to pretend he's not a racial surpemacist or huge fan of KKK-leaders and neonazi-rockbands?


--Edited for continuity
ISD Cura Ursus
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2013-03-28 15:54:02 UTC
also neonazi views, like genocide, do not merely "suck"

neonazi views are so abhorrent that anyone who even tolerates someone with those views is unwelcome in any civilized society, let alone the person themself
Frying Doom
#79 - 2013-03-28 15:56:08 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
also neonazi views, like genocide, do not merely "suck"

neonazi views are so abhorrent that anyone who even tolerates someone with those views is unwelcome in any civilized society, let alone the person themself

Anything reasonably strong is censored on this forum.

Any view that results in the deaths of any innocent civilians is unwelcome in any civilized society, let alone the person themself.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#80 - 2013-03-28 16:10:32 UTC
Since this thread is now mass-spammed, I'm taking my opportunity to remind you that you can use eve-mail to ask questions.

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.