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Fon Revedhort for CSM 8 - PvP for PvPers and those with a clue

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Thorien Greenwood
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-03-27 23:10:33 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Cura Ursus
Snow Axe wrote:
Thorien Greenwood wrote:
A drunk ******* makes a stupid tasteless joke and gets booted from the CSM almost immediately, yet when a literal space-**** starts quoting David Duke and other assorted fascists, CCP doesn't say a word?

My hope is that this is just a temporary thing, and that we can expect CCP to slap this space-fascist back down.


They didn't last election, why would they this time? All they did last year was just edit out anyone else making references to his worldviews.


...I guess at least even when he talks about EVE issues he is a rambling, incoherent idiot based on that interview. So at least that should keep space-fascist out. What?

Hearing him suddenly claim a lack of comprehension in English when pressed on his racist beliefs was kind of hilarious though.

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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#22 - 2013-03-27 23:12:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Fon Revedhort
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to learn a new word - I've never heard of 'hoodwinking' before, but I guess I really should get used to using it broadly.

Not mentioning that this very word precisely defines things you're doing here Big smile

Thanks for the bumps, but any crap will be ignored just as before.

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-03-27 23:13:31 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
Thorien Greenwood wrote:
A drunk ******* makes a stupid tasteless joke and gets booted from the CSM almost immediately, yet when a literal space-**** starts quoting David Duke and other assorted fascists, CCP doesn't say a word?

My hope is that this is just a temporary thing, and that we can expect CCP to slap this space-fascist back down.


Am pretty sure they are hoping we are smart enough not to elect him and make Fon their issue.

Relying on the Eve playerbase to collectively do something smart?

I foresee trouble ahead.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Thorien Greenwood
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-03-27 23:15:10 UTC
Fon Revedhort wrote:
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to learn a new word - I've never heard of 'hoodwinking' before, but I guess I really should get used to using it broadly.

Not mentioning that this very word precisely defines things you're doing here Big smile

Thanks for the bumps, but any crap will be ignored just as before.


It's good to see your English skills return now that you are back on the forum :shobon:
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-03-27 23:15:57 UTC
Fon Revedhort wrote:
Thanks for the bumps, but any crap will be ignored just as before.


This isn't for you. We know full well that things like 'basic human decency' won't penetrate your white hood of ignorance. This is for any other poor sod who stumbles into this thread without knowing that you're the Grand Wizard of lowsec.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#26 - 2013-03-27 23:33:10 UTC
Fon Revedhort wrote:
any crap will be ignored just as before.

Then why post? Since in your words "Any cooperation is only feasible if two parties are sharing the same views"

Which will be no one.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2013-03-27 23:38:54 UTC
by views he means visually, two parties that are viewed the same because of their similar layers of skin pigmentation
experiment a91
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-03-27 23:39:10 UTC  |  Edited by: experiment a91
This interview was very informative. This candidate isn't someone I would want representing me in Eve or frankly anything.
Rythm
True Power Team
#29 - 2013-03-28 01:12:39 UTC
well as long as fon does not go on stage and promote bulling some mentally unstable person into suicide my vote is with him.
i mean living in a glass house et cetera et ceter.
Rythm
True Power Team
#30 - 2013-03-28 01:35:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Cura Ursus
Two step wrote:
After listening to Xander's *excellent* interview, I am even more shocked and dismayed that Fon was allowed to run at all. I went and read his thread on eve-ru, and luckily many members of the Russian community are just as troubled by his views as I am. I hope everyone sends him a message to not bother to run for CSM9 by not giving him enough endorsements to even pass the pre-election.

Russian community as a whole does not give a flying talos about one's political views. Why you are so hurt and insecure about basic human rights such as freedom of speech is beyond my comprehension. I mean you can do whatever you want in US - turn it into one big happy mind-policing concentration camp if you want, but just keep it to yourself.

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Thorien Greenwood
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-03-28 02:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Cura Ursus
Rythm wrote:
Two step wrote:
After listening to Xander's *excellent* interview, I am even more shocked and dismayed that Fon was allowed to run at all. I went and read his thread on eve-ru, and luckily many members of the Russian community are just as troubled by his views as I am. I hope everyone sends him a message to not bother to run for CSM9 by not giving him enough endorsements to even pass the pre-election.

Russian community as a whole does not give a flying talos about one's political views. Why you are so hurt and insecure about basic human rights such as freedom of speech is beyond my comprehension. I mean you can do whatever you want in US - turn it into one big happy mind-policing concentration camp if you want, but just keep it to yourself.

Image Redacted
--ISD Cura Ursus



Even if we were to be so callous as to disregards ones, ahem, "fascist" tendencies, there still is the basic fact that CSM reps are required to interact and collaborate with people of various backgrounds and races. From a purely practical standpoint, holding a belief that others are at their very essence inferior to yourself, would make it impossible to collaborate and work together in good faith.

Simply put, if our space-fascist gets elected, he will most likely find his naz--sorry, "white pride" views make it hard to see eye to eye to those he sees as inferior.

And quite frankly, I would never be that callous and short-sighted, and will most certainly hold the fact that he desires a resurgence of the brand of racist fascism (that killed 6 million of my ancestors), against him.

EDIT: Just noticed the picture. Keep it classy.
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#32 - 2013-03-28 02:05:25 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Cura Ursus
Rythm wrote:
Two step wrote:
After listening to Xander's *excellent* interview, I am even more shocked and dismayed that Fon was allowed to run at all. I went and read his thread on eve-ru, and luckily many members of the Russian community are just as troubled by his views as I am. I hope everyone sends him a message to not bother to run for CSM9 by not giving him enough endorsements to even pass the pre-election.

Russian community as a whole does not give a flying talos about one's political views. Why you are so hurt and insecure about basic human rights such as freedom of speech is beyond my comprehension. I mean you can do whatever you want in US - turn it into one big happy mind-policing concentration camp if you want, but just keep it to yourself.

Image Redacted
--ISD Cura Ursus



Where did I say he wasn't welcome to say whatever hateful things he wants to say? He is free to express his own opinions, and I would hope that any potential voters would realize that someone with his repulsive views would be ignored at best by both CCP and by his fellow CSM members.

If you truly want the non-racist ideas that Fon expresses to happen, I would look for a more viable candidate.

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Rythm
True Power Team
#33 - 2013-03-28 02:20:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Rythm
Two step wrote:

Where did I say he wasn't welcome to say whatever hateful things he wants to say? He is free to express his own opinions, and I would hope that any potential voters would realize that someone with his repulsive views would be ignored at best by both CCP and by his fellow CSM members.

If you truly want the non-racist ideas that Fon expresses to happen, I would look for a more viable candidate.

We're voting here based on the internet spaceships ideas, sorry for explaining most basic things to you. Suggestion that viable game-related concerns will be rejected based on the ad-hominem argument is insulting intelligence of CCP employees and probably shedding some light on the members of current CSM *cough* *cough*

I guess you are missing one important point - personal views should be clearly separated from the professional conduct. You seem to be stuck in 50-s US where a black guy could not buy a loaf of bread cause baker was racist.
Womyn Power
Broski Bad End
#34 - 2013-03-28 02:24:11 UTC
You know your ****, no one can contest this.

Your experience makes you the best candidate for what I'm looking for in a CSM candidate.

gl man
Sarmatiko
#35 - 2013-03-28 03:23:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Two step wrote:
I would look for a more viable candidate.

Is there any?
Main problem with 'russian vote" - players are tired from 0.0 bloc statists in CSM. Best example: UAxDeath posted three times on the forums since his re-election, completely avoiding any interaction with player base. He may be complete pony-loving Jesus and all around nice guy in real life, but as community representative he was useless and never met expectations.

If strong liver, sense of humor and alcohol resistance are main factors for CSM-member success, then we need to cut the crap and finish this "CSM elections" theater once and for all. Do we need CSM as reality check for developers or as loyal group accepting most changes after pub crawl?
Onyx Nyx
The Veldspar Protectorate
#36 - 2013-03-28 04:30:11 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
Two step wrote:
I would look for a more viable candidate.

Is there any?
Main problem with 'russian vote" - players are tired from 0.0 bloc statists in CSM. Best example: UAxDeath posted three times on the forums since his re-election, completely avoiding any interaction with player base. He may be complete pony-loving Jesus and all around nice guy in real life, but as community representative he was useless and never met expectations.

If strong liver, sense of humor and alcohol resistance are main factors for CSM-member success, then we need to cut the crap and finish this "CSM elections" theater once and for all. Do we need CSM as reality check for developers or as loyal group accepting most changes after pub crawl?


That frankly depends what is more important to you; personal views on people from different cultures and ethnicity or internet spaceships?

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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#37 - 2013-03-28 04:37:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Fon Revedhort
Have I mentioned they are altering Tracking Enhancers just like I was advocating for during CSM 7 campaign? Prolly need to include this fact into my Part III, what do you guys think?

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.
Sarmatiko
#38 - 2013-03-28 04:50:19 UTC
Onyx Nyx wrote:
That frankly depends what is more important to you; personal views on people from different cultures and ethnicity or internet spaceships?

I can't change anti-russian hate from some EVE-related bloggers or some people in local. In the same way I cant change some pseudo-patriotic egocentric russians hating anyone from outside their restricted universe.
I prefer to play the game, ignoring all forms of hate (yes, I'm a special tolerant snowflake) Bear
Sieg oder Valhalla
Steelforge Heavy Industries
#39 - 2013-03-28 05:54:51 UTC
This thread clearly shows that "anti-fascists" are the true fascists. Best of luck in your campaign, Fon.
Richard Bong
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-03-28 07:46:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Bong
Rythm wrote:



I guess you are missing one important point - personal views should be clearly separated from the professional conduct.



Being an open and Olympic level racist could never impact your professional life. In fact, anyone in the workplace who is bothered by his ideas of racial purity is being a bigot!!!! WHAT ABOUT HIS FREEDOM????

Also nice Al Gore-ish grab for that tracking enhancers thing. I also know what it is like to be responsible for a change in the game. I am responsible for the Black-Ops battleships range/fuel buff. I bitched about it last year so therefore it was my idea.

Maybe I should run for CSM since I was changing the game before you.

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