Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You are also not the person I was asking, but thank you for whiteknighting on NightmareX's behalf.

"Don't be so mad"? You're trolling now?

Also, you have nothing. Don't even try to argue otherwise, you know very well that it's true.

The only one who's answered my question (although not very well) is Andy, who asserts that AFK people can control things somehow.

Except that AFK people don't control anything. They're AFK.

No, AFK people don't stop you from ratting. Your fear does that.

Actually, right now I am not pitching my solution in these posts directly.

I am saying the changes you seek are not necessary, the game is balanced to be exactly the way it is.

If you change any details that result in SOV assisted gameplay becoming easier, however, then it will either be balanced by other risks, or by reduced rewards.

To me, I would expect the reduced rewards to be more damaging to quality of gameplay, as grinding is considered dull by a great many.

Thank you for agreeing that it is the cyno which multiplies the threat of the solo cloaky immensely. Now I will show you how the probabilities scale vastly against the hotdrop target. IF I was the FC of a BLOPS gang of 6 stealth bombers, a falcon, and a BLOPS BS, and I saw 4 domi's in an anomaly in the same system as a stealth bomber with a covert cyno gen, I would immediately put out a call for more stealth bombers to log on and move to the staging system. I would increase the fleet to 12 SB, and I would have the Falcon refit to all mag ECM. As soon as I got the numbers, I would order the point and cyno for bridging. My SB would have at least two long points fiited to it and we would get at least two BS kills. So the tactic of 4 BS is likely to fail against my 12 stealth bombers, and the probability that I will drop 12 on you is assured to increase to 100% over a short period of time. In fact, given the presence of a target, the probability of me dropping you will rise to one (100%) for any pve fleet composition; the question is, "How long will it take me to get the right fleet together in order to assure an overwhelming win if I wasn't prepared to engage your fleet upon the first report?" Your other question is whether I will ever choose to engage you. SO on the one hand, your preparations will always eventually be overcome on my timetable, and on the other hand, your preparations my be wasted on an AFK cloaky. You can never know, but it is a safe bet that if you do not prepare, you will be attacked, and if you do prepare, your preparations will be overcome; all thanks to the cyno.

Now if you have a way of distinguishing between blue and red players on the Eve Universe players in space map, then please let me know, but otherwise it can be a very difficult matter to determine if an enemy blops gang is active. Even still, the covert cyno allows an FC to prepare the right fleet to take on any pve group from a position of complete safety to a position of cleared field and all cloaked up within a few precious seconds.

Yes you can compare 2 different games that use a system that is independent of what kind of game that is player. An afk timer is just not just limited to one type of game. It's meant for every games that want to take care of the afk'ers.

So yes, we can compare the afk system independent on what game that is taken into the consideration.

Says the guy who wants Eve to be more like WoW.

Sure you can make such comparisons, but such comparisons may also be just downright dumb.

For example, you approach would not work in World of Tanks. There you'd need a method not to boot AFK players, but assure that they don't go AFK since any player that goes AFK during a battle automatically gimps his team. And a player AFKing in his garage is not an issue at all.