Player Features and Ideas Discussion

They wouldn't care though, they already don't. The use map statistics, spies and scouts to find targets. Know that some dude called Jim is sitting in system is useless to them as they are hunting certain target types. Once scouts locate a target, they pop a cyno and bridge in for the kill. I honestly don't think they would care even a tiny amount if local vanished, as they have no space to defend.

That's nonsense. Just because a blinged out ship might die in high sec doesn't make null sec safer. Maybe you can say its safer for a blinged out faction ship with a low EHP, but that's all. I autopilot my empty or low volume freighters through high sec quite often. Think I would do that in null? I'll also happily run a high sec pos with no guns on it. Good idea in null?
The list goes on. There are plenty of activities that are far safer in high sec. Just because you can find an instance where high sec is more of a risk doesn't make high sec more risky in general. Flying a battleship into high sec with -10 sec status was another example you could have used.

Incomes are comparable, risk isn't. You could only use that if you could say with certainty that CCPs have balanced risk/reward adequately. High sec I can pretty much leave my PC making isk while I need to click every 10 mins or so. In fact, the billions I've made while playing GTA V shows this. Being able to pull in a null sec volume of isk while basically AFK in high sec is depressing.

There's no attacks whatsoever. You put forward and idea with a whole bunch of balance holes, don;t explain why it is needed, simply telling us that local intel is free, thus must go, all so you can negatively affect our playstyle while making yours more exciting. If you want a more exciting playstyle, by all means campaign for it, but when you are expecting to get that improved experience by destroying other peoples, you can expect resistance. And it also still doesn't really answer the question as to why you so specifically hate local. Honestly, I think local should stay. It works well, it's fairly well balanced, and there's plenty of other things that can be done to add fun without stomping all over a particular group of player.

I do find it amazing that you can't see why we would be against an idea that makes it easier to solo hunt, and means we have to have multiple players all working together 24/7 and infrastructure just to keep our current playstyle.

LOL

Do you assume all wormhole pilots are playing the same way?

And, to be perfectly obvious, this only tells you about pilots you already know about, who you assume to still be in the wormhole with you.
Might it help you? sure.
Is it a reliable warning system? No.
Between pilots who come online and are outside the hole, and pilots in the hole you have yet to add to this list, this intel is flawed in two directions.

I think you over estimate the need for a fleet.
Neither side in a wormhole fight is getting reinforcements beyond those already in the wh with them.

And what is this repeated claim about only a covops being able to sneak up on a player? Assuming they are tackling, every other ship involved in the fight can be non-covops, and most pilots in a wh have more than a single ship.



The intel would always be available.
Think about what you are saying.

You are the only one online, for your entire alliance, and you are holding sov.
If this happens enough times, your alliance is going to have problems, or do you expect charity from opposing players?

And if noone was around to help you, your ship still has it's own sensors. Use them, and warn yourself.
No suggestion to remove or limit local ever excluded the means to replace it with an effort based system.

I want free intel or else, is about the weakest argument possible. In a competitive game, what you earn for yourself is what has meaning, not what everyone is given for free.

Seems a bit anti-social IMO.

I'm talking about adding a toggle for notification and an allowance list. Avoiding people because you don't know them is what I think is anti-social.

We're talking about a single sharded sandbox MMOG. You can't define what is an acceptable mean of introduction for everyone playing it. Not even that ISK charge you cited is a fixed mechanic, most people I know disabled it after one week of gaming.

I almost never use the watch list. I use corp chat, alliance chat, private chat channels friends have created and invited me too, and then things like mumble, TS, and jabber.

So no.

I use the watch list a lot on my alts. They are in npc corps and I can't tell if my contacts are online from those. Plus I can't use third party tools on every computer I log in from. It would definitely break this part of the game for me but I honestly wouldn't mind if this improves gameplay. I'd love another exclusive WH mechanic.

You use it that much in a WH? Really?

Specifically in the WH I use it to check on the presence of the local corp members... as an intel tool. But that's not the only way I use it.