Player Features and Ideas Discussion

100 pages? This is a testament to the nullbears' whining! "BOO HOO AFK CLOAKER IN SYSTEM HE'S GONNA EAT MY CHILDREN"

"God forbid that a covert ops ship actually, you know, goes COVERT!"

It's not that simple and almost everyone knows it so please just stop thinking that way.

As a WH guy I use cloak alot and have to admit, it's simply overpowered. It realy could get nerfed - alot!
It's just too easy to hide around...and I will hate my own idea in some way, but why not keep it fair?

Make different size cloak modules which create cloak bubble(fields) from frig to maximum BS(Black Ops) or even BC size. Give em a long cycle and make em consume almost all the ships cap. No cap recharge during cloak. All systems incl. dscan are stuck.
Covops keep the advantage of beeing able to warp cloaked and control probes, but also have to recharge their cap uncloaked.
Can remove the target delay timer as a little offense payback?
Dont't need a covops module, just T1 and T2. Maybe some super expensive faction mods with less cap usage for someone to recloak faster but still at a risk to get caught if not moving around.

For bigger ship/fleet cloaking I like the idea to need 2-3 support ships with a remote module to create a cloak field that big. That also might consume stront from the capital to keep the bubble stable and grow in size to cloak the support ships as well - after a delay.

Yes, a massive nerf to something totally imbalanced. An afk cloaker will be seen at every cycle for some time and need to be active or use it's cap boosters til they run out...

*sigh*
uh yeah .. and remove local! But bring cloak bubbles on dscan.

So I got it right that you want your null space be safe to afk mine?

Christ 1 step forward, 3 steps back.

Could at least go back a few pages and read some of the stuff already posted? Not all of the thread, but like maybe the last 4-5 pages?

Or read this,

http://interstellarprivateer.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/unbreaking-local/

Instead you just plop into the thread and crap in the punch bowl.

After 100 pages I think we need a summary.

Lets see here...

"When an unknown enters my system and stays there, I dock up because I am uncertain about whether he is afk or not. Please CCP remove his abilities and trash game balance so I don't have to worry about those uncertainties, and so I can PVE in peace"

sounds about right

Lucas you have stated yourself innumerable times that your reaction when someone enters, and stays in local, is to dock up because they might (emphasis on the "might") be a threat.

That is why you are asking that the ability for them to stay in local in this way be removed or changed in such a fashion that the "might" is removed and you know for sure whether they are a threat or not.

Getting safe is common sense. You can bang on about how amazing you are and how you'd not do the same, but if you understood anything about efficiency you'd realise that any other option is drastically inefficient.
And I know, you think I should engage anyone that enters. Tough. I don't want to PvP with some 12 year old hiding behind his super duper invisibility for 3 hours. I don;t find that fun and I'm allowed to have fun playing a game. You wish to deny people that fun by AFK cloaking, not for your own fun, since you aren't there. but simply to deny others their fun. People like you disgust me.
And no, I'm asking for the ability for someone to generate the appearance of threat while not playing the game to be removed. It takes FAR FAR FAR less effort for an AFK cloaker to AFK cloak than for me to watch local, yet you complain that me using local to avoid combat is unfair.
What you do is an abuse of mechanics. Go fight people and stop hiding like a coward.

Erm no.
What we want is the 24/7 destruction of content for no reason to stop. Active players can still come kill us as much as they want. In fact, if an active player wants to block us 24/7, he can feel free. Players who don't want to actually play the game though shouldn't be able to affect anyone, even passively.