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New blog: All quiet on the EVE Launcher front?

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Melithan
Cascadia Corporation
#261 - 2013-03-21 22:22:35 UTC
I'm sure this has been said before, but since I haven't been able to read the entire thread yet (there's a lot!) I'll risk restating the sentiment of others:

I know that CCP does not officially support Linux anymore, but a lot of Linux users run Eve under Wine, myself included. For the most part it works pretty well.

As you're probably aware, updates are a nuisance due to the need to run winecfg and switch the builtin|native Wine settings for the MSVCRT (Visual C++ Runtime) during the patch process. This often results in the need to download and run the full installer. That ain't quick or convenient.

I saw that the updater was being rewritten to work more smoothly and I hope that you'll consider making the Linux via Wine experience more convenient. The number of Linux players of Eve is probably under-reported because most of us run via Wine or Virtualbox but in any case is probably a tiny fraction of your userbase. Even so, I hope you'll take us into consideration with the rewrite.
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#262 - 2013-03-22 12:23:01 UTC  |  Edited by: xxxTRUSTxxx
Barakach wrote:
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
I don't wish to share my details nor my network.

give us an off button in the options of the launcher for torrents i will not be allowing uploads from my network.

I'll stick with the HTML download I've always used thanks.


You still upload. If you're using TCP, you're uploading. Best you learn how the Internet works.


wow, i never knew that Shocked ffs Roll really you should teach networking, you seem to know more about ATP, CUDP, DCCP, FCP, IL, IL, NBF, RDP, RUDP, SCTP, SPX, SST, TCP, UDP, UDP Lite and µTP than the rest of us tiny mortals Roll

anyway there will be an option to disable, i'm happy.
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#263 - 2013-03-22 12:39:54 UTC
CCP Atropos wrote:
And this is why we're providing the option to disable it. If we were truly forcing it, there wouldn't even be that option Blink



thank you
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#264 - 2013-03-22 21:45:42 UTC
There was no further mention in the devblog, and I haven't finished reading the comments (yeah, barely started), but was there any talk about the Steam aspect of the new launcher which was mentioned but glossed over? When I read the header, "WTF?", I thought it would have to do with this.

So, WTF? Steam now?!
Caesar Rae
Perkone
Caldari State
#265 - 2013-03-23 16:22:36 UTC
Hosedna wrote:
BigDaddyMcFatSacks wrote:
Phext wrote:
BigDaddyMcFatSacks wrote:

1) Security. IP being able to be known by others


Not an issue at all. Generally speaking, without the other side knowing your IP, the Net would be a boring place...


I think you misunderstand. As stated a few posts above someone could find out your ip thru P2P and then flood you rendering your connection basically useless. Maybe that is extreme, but it is certainly an issue.


You know, if you have absolutely no knowledge of how a network works and network security, you just shouldn't speak of it. Otherwise you appear as a superstitious medieval peasant speaking of technology...



What he speaks of (BigDaddy) is technically plausible Hosenda, however, who is going to spend the time and effort to do that for a single resident user. Highly unlikely.
Caesar Rae
Perkone
Caldari State
#266 - 2013-03-23 16:36:00 UTC
Melithan wrote:
I'm sure this has been said before, but since I haven't been able to read the entire thread yet (there's a lot!) I'll risk restating the sentiment of others:

I know that CCP does not officially support Linux anymore, but a lot of Linux users run Eve under Wine, myself included. For the most part it works pretty well.

As you're probably aware, updates are a nuisance due to the need to run winecfg and switch the builtin|native Wine settings for the MSVCRT (Visual C++ Runtime) during the patch process. This often results in the need to download and run the full installer. That ain't quick or convenient.

I saw that the updater was being rewritten to work more smoothly and I hope that you'll consider making the Linux via Wine experience more convenient. The number of Linux players of Eve is probably under-reported because most of us run via Wine or Virtualbox but in any case is probably a tiny fraction of your userbase. Even so, I hope you'll take us into consideration with the rewrite.



Although I have not taken the time to do a Linux toy box yet. I would like to be able to know that my favorite toy, Eve, works well in it too.
Margaret Croke
East Eve Trading Co
#267 - 2013-04-01 17:18:55 UTC
Any estimate on when is it coming up? Along with Odyssey?
Pumuckel Bygderocker
N.A.G.A Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst. Logistics
#268 - 2013-04-28 15:03:11 UTC
What about Adding to the Eve launcher Window

Eve Influence map Of the Allinces and Faction Warfare ;)
Lithorn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#269 - 2013-05-01 01:07:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Lithorn
CCP Guard wrote:
CCP Aporia and friends are working on the launcher and how updates are delivered to your EVE client. Please check out their latest dev blog right here and don't hesitate to launch your comments and questions our way!

This is perhaps the wrong place to post it but there appears to be a major problem (for me maybe) with the procedure for making a SISI client out of the TQ client VIA copying it or just installing another one from scratch. The patching tool from the launcher blindly patches EVERY instance of the eve client on my machine reguardless of what server each instance is patched for.
IE: If I run the patcher for SISI it patches TQ , If I need to run TQ and I run the patcher and it patches SISI client also, etc.
I forgot to mention this at FF. Could get someone to look into this please?
(yes I use seperate directory trees and seperate launcher paths for the clients before anyone bothers to ask. Using Win 7 64 Ult)
loquacious7
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#270 - 2013-05-06 23:39:50 UTC
I have almost the same problem with sisi "skyneting" my TQ launcher. separate launchers from separate folders ending terribly with 5 gb+ download because I had to wipe both folders clean to log back into TQ :-(
And wow what a slow speed todays patch's were. Have we already changed to BT? felt very familiar like my machine could find no seed to stream from. Barren for no seed to find purchase :-)

Lithorn wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
CCP Aporia and friends are working on the launcher and how updates are delivered to your EVE client. Please check out their latest dev blog right here and don't hesitate to launch your comments and questions our way!

This is perhaps the wrong place to post it but there appears to be a major problem (for me maybe) with the procedure for making a SISI client out of the TQ client VIA copying it or just installing another one from scratch. The patching tool from the launcher blindly patches EVERY instance of the eve client on my machine reguardless of what server each instance is patched for.
IE: If I run the patcher for SISI it patches TQ , If I need to run TQ and I run the patcher and it patches SISI client also, etc.
I forgot to mention this at FF. Could get someone to look into this please?
(yes I use seperate directory trees and seperate launcher paths for the clients before anyone bothers to ask. Using Win 7 64 Ult)