EVE General Discussion

and he escalated and got unbanned and got reimbursed with some plex for every account if i remember right. **** happens and the escalation thing seems to work.

The problem is that being told it was removed because it was illegally obtained is insufficient, given the circumstances. If they had additionally explained why there was a delay in removing it, perhaps indicating that there was an ongoing investigation that had only just been completed, an assurance that the ISK would have been removed eventually, apologies for the inconvenience, and some kind of expression of gratitude for Kelduum's decision to bring it up with them before making use of the ISK (which would have complicated everything), then there wouldn't really be an issue.

Instead, the process made it look like the ISK was confiscated only because Kelduum brought it up and that they really hadn't substantiated the fact that the ISK was illegally obtained and were only saying so to stonewall Kelduum's incredulity.

EVE University lives almost entirely off of donations from others. With the way this was handled, it felt like E-Uni was being punished for Kelduum's due diligence by a security team with carte blanche authority and no oversight. It could have been handled significantly better, for example starting with the response that Sreegs posted in this thread initially.

And if, upon doing so, you come away with the impression that Kelduum supports botting, you have reading comprehension issues (or a significant personal bias against Kelduum).

Where do we go to submit feedback regarding the GM's, I have some feedback on issues and rather than throwing them under the bus, I'd prefer not to.

That's a very bold assessment from someone with no experience in the corporation or in dealing with Kelduum himself.

If improving your PvP skills is your goal, then you have many options available to you. E-Uni deals in educating in all aspects of EVE gameplay, including PvP but PvP is not a focus of the organization.

Make sure he sends all his isk to some space-important group ...

dunno, eve-U definitely wasn't like this in the past, and stuff changed with Keldrum, so, personal opinion is that the issue is Keldrum, not eve-u.

I mean no disrespect to Eve-Uni.

They just need a new CEO.

Says he did nothing wrong, then immediately proceeds to tell us how he did it. Kelduum supported a botter & tried to justify his actions, therefore condoning it. And that's only in the first post, there's a whole 11 pages of E-UNI people supporting this.

Are you daft?

E-Uni receives an unsolicited donation of all of a player's ISK as he decides to quit the game. Kelduum, knowing this player was involved in disciplinary action for potential botting to obtain ISK, isolates this donation away from E-Uni assets to prevent it from being used for corp activities, and then contacts CCP to determine the legality of this ISK.

How do you get from that to an accusation of "embezzlement" or an attempt to "hide" botted ISK? Kelduum could have simply allowed the money to be used in the corporation. The question is, would it have been confiscated if Kelduum hadn't said anything to CCP? Or, was Kelduum (and by extension in this case, E-Uni) essentially punished for his due dilligence?