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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Shyzandra
EyEs.FR
#1141 - 2013-01-17 16:43:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Shyzandra
Post!

We really need a new POS system
I feel a little betrayed... CCP made us a promise. And my mate and I were really waiting for this revamp, more than any other update...
I dont want a new mining freg, or to be able to walk in the station... I dont care.
I want a clean POS system, not the patchwork we've been dealing with since years...
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Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1142 - 2013-01-17 16:44:09 UTC
POSes are ****. Fix POSes.

hello
Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#1143 - 2013-01-17 16:44:40 UTC
Here's a reason to make new POS's:

You want to make features that connect DUST and EVE. Make new POS's that can, in some situations, be anchored at a planet, reinforcing a district on a planet. That way, simply put, DUST guys will have to get help from eve people to first kill the POS in order to attack the district, where dust guys can request orbital strikes from eve players again.
booyah.
fix POS system.

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ARCHON79
Doomheim
#1144 - 2013-01-17 16:45:07 UTC
FIX IT OR ELSE!
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#1145 - 2013-01-17 16:45:29 UTC
Who can forget the old forum post 'Flogging the dead horse'

How old is that now? How long did it spend on the first page of the suggestions forum (without being stickied)


Players have been waiting and wanting a POS upgrade, including modular POSs for YEARS!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Saffire Silynt
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1146 - 2013-01-17 16:46:15 UTC
POSs need revamp. period.
Amenio
Aggressively Cute
S.N.O.T.
#1147 - 2013-01-17 16:46:32 UTC
As a citizen of nullsec I find myself using POSes almost more then stations, even tho I don't manage them! I also let two accounts run out of subscription since I scrapped my idea of making a high sec industrial tower. Fix POS now!
handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#1148 - 2013-01-17 16:46:58 UTC
Im one of the people doing nothing with POSses (except using them for JB use and getting to bridging titans) because reading and seeing how they work, i've just given up on managing one before even starting. Just thinking about how to set one up gave e enough of a headache to not even see them as feasible gameplay

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Hazell D'ark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1149 - 2013-01-17 16:47:02 UTC
The current POS system is just not enough to fulfilling the needs of wormhole player base. and regarding the "small portion " i want to say that wormholes of eve aren't as small as some people might believe and a secure ship hanger might help improve the number of players joining us.
Feer Truelight
#1150 - 2013-01-17 16:47:06 UTC
POSes need some love!

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Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Mellivora Nulla Irrumabo
#1151 - 2013-01-17 16:47:18 UTC
The POS revamp is one of the things i am most looking forward too Bear
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#1152 - 2013-01-17 16:47:52 UTC
Some of my words on this:

CCP is moving forward and going back into themes. Player owned structures would be a beautiful theme. "Come join Eve, find a random chunk of space and make your home! But other people can take it so watch out!." My mind bubbles over at how exciting "Houses in Eve" would be to nonplayers. Those people that we want to become players? Video game houses are just that appealing to people.

You can't look at POS as they currently are. What they currently are is a stream lined product (stream lined by the players)due to their ineffective nature. It is not that people do not want POS and it is not that POS only effect a small part of the game (they do not but I will let the other POS people discuss those details) it is that the poor structure of POS creates the limitation itself. If you define a broken chair by the fact that it is broken instead of what it is when fixed then you will say all chairs are not what people are using to sit on because so few people are willing to balance on this broken one.

Why are there so many POS in high sec, anchored to every damn moon, if 'no one' uses them?

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.
Elizabeth Garneau
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1153 - 2013-01-17 16:48:00 UTC
I own and operate multiple POS structures for production, research, and storage. It is interesting to note that wormholes were agreed to be a very successful gameplay addition, with a large amount of the playerbase interacting with them. And yet, even though every single person who lives in a wormhole uses a POS, they (and all the others who use player owned structures) are considered to be a small portion of the population.

I understand that the code is probably tangled, and that it is a solution that has no easy answers in terms of implementation. But it would be a misrepresentation of your players to say that POSes do not impact a significant amount of us, and do not warrant the time to fix them. I am part of this "small" portion of the population, and I would like to see POS mechanics fixed.
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#1154 - 2013-01-17 16:48:30 UTC
Most players outside highsec make use of POS's at one point or another, either POS's planted by someone else or their own. They are a core part of game play in dangerous space.

And that's with the current broken mechanics.

For the love of all that is gaming, fix them!

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Nemahs Aideron
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1155 - 2013-01-17 16:48:31 UTC
We need a POS revamp CCP, cmon.
Sara Seraph
Sara Inc
#1156 - 2013-01-17 16:48:37 UTC
I have to plus one this item.

(will edit later after reading the threadnaught)
SirNine
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#1157 - 2013-01-17 16:49:04 UTC  |  Edited by: SirNine
While POSes are nowhere near as bad as they where say 2 years ago they still need more love.
colera deldios
#1158 - 2013-01-17 16:49:05 UTC
I wonder why is everyone bitching about this ? Has CCP made an official statement why they decided not to rework the POS system ?

I mean people hear NO and just start bitching without asking for a reason as to why. Most dont even realize what complex thing this is, do they have the resources for this, the people, the time and what they chose to do instead of POS Overhaul.

I'm dissapointed that they chose not to work on the POS system but at least before i ***** like a litle school girl i would like to know the reason behind.
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#1159 - 2013-01-17 16:49:07 UTC
Signed.

I'm a WH resident now, and the POS is really the only irritant. It's fidgety, it spams out Dscan, and doing the two-kilometer hop get to a hangar gets old fast.

If CCP brought them up to date, they would not only make a lot of Instigators happy, they'd probably see more people hanging POSes.

Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

I voted in CSM X!
Termy Rockling
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1160 - 2013-01-17 16:49:33 UTC
Even if there wont be full POS overhaul theres lots smaller changes that many wiser than me people here will be listing.