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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Prootje
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1101 - 2013-01-17 16:32:09 UTC
Modular personal posses plz plz plz, so we can build our own cities in the sky :)
Nithmere
Dependable Delinquents
Fraternity.
#1102 - 2013-01-17 16:32:17 UTC
Please for all of us that have to deal with this issue on a daily basis. FIX THE DAMN POS' This is a main reason recruitment for WH corps is a huge pain in the ***. Along with all the other points mentioned, you know it a main issue but want to pass it off as "too much work". Thats a joke, since we have to deal with "too much work" every time we open the pos menus.

+1 for all of this, glad people have responded to this.
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#1103 - 2013-01-17 16:32:43 UTC
#1103 of the small portion of the community, asking for POS's to be better.
GoldmanSacks
Doomheim
#1104 - 2013-01-17 16:33:01 UTC
Gunnlaugur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1105 - 2013-01-17 16:33:06 UTC
Pos all the way
Jack Snipe
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1106 - 2013-01-17 16:33:12 UTC
Even people who aren't logistics and don't deal with POSes every day agree: GET US MODULAR POSES!

I for one would gladly sacrifice an expansions worth of content for POS reforms.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#1107 - 2013-01-17 16:33:19 UTC
Imuran wrote:

Only affects POS managers - plainly not true - how many characters live in WH? - they are living out of POS


Correct.
Indeed, an increase to flexibility would only help make W-space a more dynamic place. If I could, for instance, more easily farm out access to our station's research capacity, I'd happily have my CEO install additional lab space, solely for the purpose of renting to non-corp members. I could do that now, but it'd be a logistical nightmare.

Likewise, we share our WH with another corp - they're very active but rather poor, and their POS setup frankly sucks.* If we could easily rent facilities and capacity to them, without entering their alliance, we would happily install the additional capacity. Hell, we'd rent capacity to anyone who stops by - so long as they behave - if we could do so without formally making them Blue or risking our infrastructure to those tenants.


*(We let the live because they're prolific PI folks, and set up lots of POCOs - which they give us 'friend-rate' access)

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Darcel Black
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1108 - 2013-01-17 16:34:31 UTC
I would absolutely love POSes to be re done! Modular in particular.
Sam Heart
Pulling Weeds
#1109 - 2013-01-17 16:34:50 UTC

yes please
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1110 - 2013-01-17 16:34:52 UTC
Tossing my support behind this effort: Please Fix POSes...

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Vanessa Vansen
Vandeo
#1111 - 2013-01-17 16:35:19 UTC
space winnebago! and more

yes, please do something!
Nys Cron
EVE University
Ivy League
#1112 - 2013-01-17 16:35:27 UTC
Fix POS please. Thanks.
Korim Nadar
Tobruk Heavy Industries
#1113 - 2013-01-17 16:35:54 UTC
SRY CCP,
but we really need a POS-revamp.
One way or the other ...

The current system is a nightmare.
Basil Vulpine
Blueprint Haus
Blades of Grass
#1114 - 2013-01-17 16:35:57 UTC
POSs need fixing, there are so many different ways that a few small fixes could vastly improve things.
Allow us to queue up onlining of modules. Put in a "personal hangar" that means we can build things without having those remarkably sensitive corp roles. Many other things spring to mind.

Sadly the code is so bad that these little fixes can't be done and a major overhaul is needed. This old code is bound to be holding you back in other ways such as giving us a more fine grained corporate permissions system.

As for the "It only impacts a small number of people", was that measured by looking for how many characters have the config starbase equipment role? The one that means anybody with it can steal all of the POSs? How about comparing how many of the universe's BPC come from POS laboratories? How much of the invention occurs in POSs? How many people use T2 modules which rely on POS copying, invention and 3 stages of moon goo industry? Add in the number of people who use a JB in null-sec at least once a week, everybody who lives in wormholes.

The "small number of people" can only be the result of a flawed estimate, this thread should give plenty of ideas on how to get a better estimate of just the people using POSs now, let along the number of people who would use POSs if they were more accessible / user-friendly / corp roles friendly.
Ayeshah Volfield
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1115 - 2013-01-17 16:36:08 UTC
Supported.

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Gimble Revo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1116 - 2013-01-17 16:36:10 UTC
One of the reasons I haven't thought about doing anything with a POS, is after using them once in a wormhole, I'm aware of how bad their current state is. Setting up one to mine a moon or something sounds kinda cool (especially if the fuel reduction in upgraded FW space goes through), but that one experience using them just makes me not even want to try.
Richard McTrader
Doomheim
#1117 - 2013-01-17 16:36:19 UTC
I support and long for a POS revamp. Please fix this.
iskflakes
#1118 - 2013-01-17 16:36:29 UTC
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Karbox Delacroix
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1119 - 2013-01-17 16:36:31 UTC
Quote:
Greyscale replied that coming into meetings with the mindset of CCP promising a certain feature is a fallacious, and flat-out wrong, mindset.


If Greyscale ever leaves CCP I am sure he could run a thriving business selling Guardian-Vexors in Jita.
Brie DeMarllene
Doomheim
#1120 - 2013-01-17 16:36:32 UTC
hey guys
guys
we did some research on hover boards
no one is using them so we're not going to create them